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They are not "social architects". They are Communists. Name the enemy, else be defeated by them. They cannot and will not be defeated by votes. Learn that. There is only one way to defeat them. It is a question of who has the stomach for what needs to be done: you or them. Since you say you do not know how to defeat them, right now my money is on them... sadly.

We will not be lost to "European style socialism", we will be lost to Maoist Communism. There is a difference. Just ask the 77 million and counting dead Chinese.

Ummmmmmmmm.....no, they are not communists. They don't fit the definition. You can call them that and I don't give a damn. But factually, they are socialists with a Hitler like fascist flavor .

These idiots call themselves progressives. It's just a new name on a old tired philosophy. What makes them appear new is that they use economics as a tool and this is new in the U.S. but not new in Europe. Communists don't need economics. They resent the concept of it and control everything including personal property.

These new progressives see the economy and industry as a funding mechanism for their social work. They see personal property as a reward and class identifier..

I am not trying to be flip here, just trying to inform you. Calling them Commies will weaken your position because it is easy for them to prove they are not.

BTW, I get your point regarding the efforts to rid ourselves of them, but your method can only be used post revolution and that is another topic.

Changing the heart and mind of a indoctrinated socialist takes time and happens in stages. The first stage is often a jump to a libertine philosophy. I see a lot of that lately. The anger and the fear of losing ones freedom is a powerful message. But it takes time and it is not always permanent.

If I read you right, you are not advocating anything that takes time and you would prefer to line them up and shoot them. The Russians tried that with their red and white armies during their revolution. They never really recovered from the damages done to their society and are still today doing the same thing. They are still shooting political enemies. Eventually you would think that the final solution would work, but it never does.

The best thing for us to do is get back to the Republic we created, and jettison all the changes that have been made since WWII, including numerous constitutional amendments. I would prefer to see Senators appointed as they were in the beginning, for example.

I could yak about this for days. The fact is, calling these people commies is not going to hurt their feeling, nor is it going to help your case.