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To: PIF
Ummmmmmmmm.....no, they are not communists. They don't fit the definition. You can call them that and I don't give a damn. But factually, they are socialists with a Hitler like fascist flavor .

These idiots call themselves progressives. It's just a new name on a old tired philosophy. What makes them appear new is that they use economics as a tool and this is new in the U.S. but not new in Europe. Communists don't need economics. They resent the concept of it and control everything including personal property.

These new progressives see the economy and industry as a funding mechanism for their social work. They see personal property as a reward and class identifier..

I am not trying to be flip here, just trying to inform you. Calling them Commies will weaken your position because it is easy for them to prove they are not.

BTW, I get your point regarding the efforts to rid ourselves of them, but your method can only be used post revolution and that is another topic.

Changing the heart and mind of a indoctrinated socialist takes time and happens in stages. The first stage is often a jump to a libertine philosophy. I see a lot of that lately. The anger and the fear of losing ones freedom is a powerful message. But it takes time and it is not always permanent.

If I read you right, you are not advocating anything that takes time and you would prefer to line them up and shoot them. The Russians tried that with their red and white armies during their revolution. They never really recovered from the damages done to their society and are still today doing the same thing. They are still shooting political enemies. Eventually you would think that the final solution would work, but it never does.

The best thing for us to do is get back to the Republic we created, and jettison all the changes that have been made since WWII, including numerous constitutional amendments. I would prefer to see Senators appointed as they were in the beginning, for example.

I could yak about this for days. The fact is, calling these people commies is not going to hurt their feeling, nor is it going to help your case.

208 posted on 01/18/2010 10:47:10 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

“The best thing for us to do is get back to the Republic we created, and jettison all the changes that have been made since WWII, including numerous constitutional amendments. I would prefer to see Senators appointed as they were in the beginning, for example.”

Agreed! :)

“The fact is, calling these people commies is not going to hurt their feeling, nor is it going to help your case.”

Disagree, as their methods to date fit the classic textbook definition. Not trying for cause - just saying. :(

“Communists don’t need economics. They resent the concept of it and control everything including personal property.”

Which is what Hussein is trying to achieve with the intentional distruction of the US economy. Control of private property, cf the engangered species act. This is a long time coming.


209 posted on 01/18/2010 11:11:53 AM PST by PIF
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To: Cold Heat; PIF

Savage: Obama “is a neo-marxist fascist dictator in the making”

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200903060012

Soviet style socialist — with a fascist flare — works for me.

In any case — whatever we prefer to call them — we can ALL agree that the Obama junta: is inimical to our republican form of government.

STE=Q


222 posted on 01/18/2010 5:47:41 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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