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To: GenXteacher

There is no evidence of “pretending to collapse” in the late 20th century USSR. There is evidence of an actual collapse. There is also evidence of attempt at reform (glasnost and perestroyka) that got out of Kremlin’s control, but that is not the same as pretending.

People who lead us to serfdom are not agents of Komintern. They are homegrown idiots, community organizers with lust for power, and apparatchiks who enable them, who might occasionally borrow an idea or two from Lenin and Trotzky. Understand that while the Gulag and the single-ideology state are not attractive, some elements of marxism are attractive to very many. For example, many, possibly a majority, of Americans want socialized medicine, banking and education, a solid majority wants the pension system run by the state, nearly all want separation of church and state. These are all building blocks of marxism, but people who want them are not marxists, let alone agents of a foreign power. They simply want a free lunch, a naturally occuring human condition.


111 posted on 04/10/2010 9:14:10 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

“These are all building blocks of marxism, but people who want them are not marxists, let alone agents of a foreign power. They simply want a free lunch, a naturally occuring human condition.”

Oh, but they are indeed Marxists, whether they are aware of what their ideology is called, or not—and they’re equally as dangerous.

“They simply want a free lunch...”

This has led to the deaths of millions upon millions of human beings. It is not an innocuous idea.

You will pay for their “lunch” with your life if they are allowed to rule and slowly destroy us.

Sure, it starts with “A free lunch would be great!” and it ends with piles of corpses.

And no, they can’t control it; they can’t maintain an “acceptable” amount of collectivism. It is an aggressive cancer.

What, you think they will stop with “ObamaCare”? Not a chance. Mark my words, next week, next month, next year, will all bring a NEW EMERGENCY, a NEW PROBLEM that MUST BE SOLVED.

And this will repeat until the bodies start dropping, guaranteed.

We’re on the road to destruction.


132 posted on 04/10/2010 3:23:46 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: annalex

“There is no evidence of “pretending to collapse” in the late 20th century USSR. There is evidence of an actual collapse. There is also evidence of attempt at reform (glasnost and perestroyka) that got out of Kremlin’s control, but that is not the same as pretending.”
Like I said- perhaps they screwed up and actually collapsed. I think it not beyond possibility. The best laid plans of mice and men, and all that.

“People who lead us to serfdom are not agents of Komintern. They are homegrown idiots, community organizers with lust for power, and apparatchiks who enable them, who might occasionally borrow an idea or two from Lenin and Trotzky.”
The ones that exist now, perhaps. I find it not impossible that the ones who they got their ideas from had an altogether more insidious agenda. For example, we know FDR’s administration had actual communists in it (Alger Hiss, anybody) and Yalta was a full-on sellout. We know that Marxism is and has been pretty prevalent in academia for decades- where it was placed to influence our elite classes to the point where it would become their ideology. My theory is that Stalin’s dissolution of the Comintern was a smokescreen, and that it simply went underground to infiltrate the West. Then the original infiltrators died off, went rogue, or otherwise began to deviate from the plan, but not entirely. Like robots, they continued the course they set out on, and when the Soviet Union collapsed, they simply continued onward. The useful idiots they created are still with us, indeed, they are the dominant orthodoxy in academia and the media now.

“For example, many, possibly a majority, of Americans want socialized medicine, banking and education, a solid majority wants the pension system run by the state, nearly all want separation of church and state. These are all building blocks of marxism, but people who want them are not marxists, let alone agents of a foreign power. They simply want a free lunch, a naturally occuring human condition.”
Marx’s ideology is no less dangerous or evil regardless of what fools are being manipulated with it. I also see no reason to separate the stooges from the manipulators. This is all assuming I am right of course. I would greatly be pleased to be wrong, but as the years pass I think that less likely.


143 posted on 04/11/2010 9:01:42 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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