Posted on 01/15/2010 9:15:03 PM PST by Steelfish
PHOTOS: Earthquake hits Haiti
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OK- I didn’t expect one given your knee-jerk reaction.
“how you can look at all that destruction and tragedy”
You can’t be serious here. I’ve posted over a dozen times of the extent and depth of the destruction and grief in Haiti including a series of slideshows. This particular pic caught my eye only because of the LA Times captioning of that photo. We all take unkindly to looters in any tragedy. The fact that he was wearing an Obama T-shirt made it more poignant. But apparently, such as reference to this caption in your mind constitutes a “misdemeanor of Free Republic” - whatever that means!
WTF does that mean?
Don't be silly. Of course they should.
I'd like to decide how to distribute my property not be told to give it up or die.
And you might decide to share as much as you can with others in a worse condition. Now, being told to give it up or die constitutes the LOOTER tag (or armed robbery).
the man seemed humble in his demeanor and the reporter was not making it a sob story beyond what it obviously was.
I am sure there are many 'different' situations, some more desperate, some not. Since we only 'see' what the reporters show us, we don't know all the circumstances.
Bill Hemmer and Grif Jenkins looked absolutely filthy and exhausted the last time I saw one of their reports.
That may be. Some reporters are honest, hard-working people who honestly care. I was casting a large net in implying all reporters are asses, so I apologize.
Getting this story out is worth a lot more than their two pairs of hands.
Maybe. Depends on whether you are the one stuck under a building.
I know I would be armed. I would seek out honest, but desperate, armed folks to rally around.
We would take goods that were necessary for life. Water, food, first aid, and diapers.
I would note from where I took and find the proprietor or his family, at some later point and give him what I could in payment. It would probably be bulk 9mm or .22 shells.
But, I live in America and can use ammo as money.
No worries.
“Demeanor” is one’s facial appearance or, figuratively, conduct. To commit a misdemeanor is to deface, as in to cause scandal, or public humiliation. To be charged with a misdemeanor is to be charged with something less than a felony, which nonetheless at least should be a public disgrace. Unfortunately, the legal term has become far more well-known than the ordinary word from which it got its name; as a result, people were able to argue in the Clinton impeachment that his actions did not constitute a “misdemeanor.”
IOW: A disgrace.
I note that in all the pictures I have seen, that these areas seem to be in the ‘ghetto’ neighborhoods.
I have seen pictures of the nicer parts of Haiti (taken before the quake), and with the exception of the Presidential Palace , I have not seen any pictures of those wealthier parts of Haiti in any after photos.
As to what I would do, I do not know. I would certainly have the same ideas as you stated. Hopefully I will never be in their situation. If I am, then I will be a better judge of what I think others should or should not do.
(I didn’t simply say “disgrace,” because I wanted to make clear that the “disgrace” was not the poster’s presence — I don’t know him and have no basis for a judgment on him — but merely the appearance they cause.)
But, how is pointing out what a REPORTER remarked on in a news article, a disgrace to FR?
Can you be sure that JET was agreeing with the tactic by the reporter , or was noting it because he disagreed with it?
Isn’t it just your ‘assumption’ that is causing the problem?
to take from them and give it away to the Po'Folks?!?!?!
What I have I worked for,,,
What I have put back is for me and mine,,,
LOOTERS WILL BE SHOT ON SITE!!!
SURVIVORS WILL BE SHOT AGAIN!!!
(and fed to the alligator)...
What you posted that came before that I think we agree on. But I think the situation in Haiti is all desperate. In the story I referred to I think I saw pretty much all of it. A totally collapsed store and the owner and his father staying in the two and a half foot high space left trying to keep a scrap of their life. I think they were in shock so by now they may have decided there was no point and just let it go. I agree that the generous thing would be to hand the goods out. But I feel strongly in their right to decide without being coerced.
...so I apologize.
Not necessary. I generally disdain reporters too. I have only watched Fox News and have not seen any self-serving behavior from them on the ground there. I guess I felt they deserved a little defense on that point. If they put Geraldo and his dog and pony show in there I'll shut them off. Maybe for good.
From your reply @ #8 to said poster..........
You’ve disgraced FR.
Are you drunk, or what?
Maybe. Depends on whether you are the one stuck under a building.
C'mon. Televising this moves millions of minds and hearts to do something. One thing that struck me was one reporter said there were hundreds and even thousands of people standing around on every corner. Then there was another story where one guy was on top of a pile of rubble trying to move it and maybe five more people around helping from below. They couldn't find enough people to help. No one else in sight.
Thank you for your responses.
I think the best we can do is pray for them. Reporters, rescuers, looters, the survivors. They have a long path ahead, and many may not survive.
Yes, but there is more to it than just the desire to motivate donors. There is the need to draw viewers, sell newspapers, enhance reputations.
One thing that struck me was one reporter said there were hundreds and even thousands of people standing around on every corner.
Then there was another story where one guy was on top of a pile of rubble trying to move it and maybe five more people around helping from below. They couldn't find enough people to help. No one else in sight.
So, which one is true?
Or are both true?
Maybe you are trying to say that it proves a need for the multiplicity of reporters so we see different 'viewpoints'.
I want to help people. I want to share what I have. I don't want to leave my place and my stuff to help disaster victims and come back to find everything I have gone leaving me a disaster victim.
But none of that would ever happen here. I guarantee that 90% of the people in this town would share and help out and the ones who tried to loot the situation would be shot or severely beaten.
After we give whatever we can materially the only thing left for us to do is pray. It would be good if people all over the world did a lot of serious prayer for the people of Haiti and the people on the ground that have come to help.
Their lives before were in many ways a nightmare and now hell on earth has come to them. Only so much can be done to lighten what is happening there now but prayer is unlimited in its power and only somewhat limited by our personal time and energy to give it. The more who participate the better.
Yeah, picture #10!
They definitely have the ENTITLEMENT mentality.
I can’t imainge getting ANGRY at other countries for not giving them FREE aid fast enough. What ever happened to being HUMBLE and GRATEFUL in the midst of such tragedy.
What ever happened to ALL THE HUGE AMOUNTS of MONEY giving to them ALL THE TIME? It seems that the more money they receive, with no obligation, the POORER they get.
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