Posted on 01/15/2010 8:19:36 PM PST by abu afak
"...Statehood is no longer a goal, he writes. Many stateless groups “do not aspire to have a state,” for they are more capable of achieving their objectives without one. Instead of actively seeking statehood to address their weakness, as Zionist Jews did in an earlier phase of history, groups like the Palestinians now embrace their statelessness as a source of power.
New communication technologies allow people to achieve virtual unity without a state, even as new military technologies give stateless groups a lethal capacity that in former decades could be attained only by states. Grygiel explains that it's now “highly desirable” not to have a state—for a state is a target that can be destroyed or damaged, and hence pressured politically. It was the very quasi-statehood achieved by Hamas in the Gaza Strip that made it easier for Israel to bomb it. A state entails responsibilities that limit a people’s freedom of action...."
But the most tempting aspect of statelessness is that it permits a people to savor the pleasures of religious zeal, extremist ideologies, and moral absolutes, without having to make the kinds of messy, mundane compromises that accompany the work of looking after a geographical space.
If [Grygiel's] theory is correct, then the Palestinians may never have a state, because at a deep psychological level, enough of them—or at least the groups that speak in their name—may not really want one. Statehood would mean openly compromising with Israel, and, because of the dictates of geography, living in an intimate political and economic relationship with it. Better the glory of victimhood, combined with the power of radical abstractions! As a stateless people, Palestinians can lob rockets into Israel, but not be wholly blamed in the eyes of the international community. Statehood would, perforce, put an end to such license..."
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No. They want sympathy and foreign aid in perpetuity.
Statehood would mean openly compromising with Israel, and, because of the dictates of geography, living in an intimate political and economic relationship with it. Better the glory of victimhood, combined with the power of radical abstractions! As a stateless people, Palestinians can lob rockets into Israel, but not be wholly blamed in the eyes of the international community. Statehood would, perforce, put an end to such license......as would kicking the Arabs out of Israel (including Judah, Samaria, and Gaza).
Yes - it's called Israel.
If they did, they’d have one.
I don't really have anything against Virginians, but why not give the Palis what they *really* want?
“Do the Palestinians Really Want a State?”
No, they are content to be proxy cannon fodder for other Arab states like the violent idiots they are.
Yes, but it’s Israel.
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Do they want a State? Great question.
With over 200K being relocated to the United States in the next few years, I would say they have multiple “States”.
Dismembering the Israeli state is far more important to Palestinian leaders than having a state of their own.
Like liberals and radical gay activists, it will never be enough. Never.
I think what he’s describing could also be called the “Che syndrome”.. clearly arafat was mired in it and perhaps their leaders now.
No the want the entire country of Israel. Its about getting rid of Israel. No Jews in the Middle East. Obama has promised to move them to North Dakota.
F the palestinians.
Moslems with a different gripe. Along with all the other moslems, with all their gripes.
The day moslems stop griping, and stop murdering people based on their idiotic gripes, will be the day I start taking them seriously.
Just kidding — I’ll never take a moslem seriously.
Exactly, it’s about making the entire Middle East “Juden Frei”.
Even when given the tools that could lead to eventual statehood and prosperity, the Palestinians go ass-backwards.
Let’s go back to Israel’s pullout from the Gaza Strip several years back. The Israeli settlers left a number of operating greenhouses that raised flowers and vegetables.
Instead of taking ‘em over and thinking “Hey, we could make some money here and possibly gain some economic power”, they trashed the greenhouses. An absolute case of cutting off your nose to spite your own face.
What the Palestinians don’t understand or are unwilling to admit is this...
Israel isn’t going away anytime soon!
If the Palestinians were in the least bit interested, they could occupy a large chunk of the Sinai Peninsula and with enough effort and foreign aid from the rest of the world, they could be an economic power. With their location near the Mediterranean Sea and the Suez Canal, they’d have access to Europe, African and Asia.
But they don’t want that. Victimhood is too much fun. Having to accept responsibility for themselves and their future is out of the question.
Ditto.
“the last days” .... being When exactly?
Because the Sun will expand and explode too— but without a date it’s not too meaningful even tho MORE CERTAIN than your prediction.
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