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Gates rules out airdropping aid for fear of riots
Stars and Stripes ^ | January 16, 2010 | By Jeff Schogol,

Posted on 01/15/2010 6:23:42 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

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To: hedgetrimmer

The UN is being its usual worthless self. Gen. Russel Honore is the only person I’ve heard who talks sense — too bad he’s not in charge.

The UN pulling doctors and supplies from a field hospital with sick and dying patients today was unconscienable.


41 posted on 01/15/2010 8:09:27 PM PST by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: doc1019

What about the kind of MRE drops we did in Afghanistan or Iraq (shame on me, I can’t remember which). My (sketchy) memory is that they were pretty successful.


42 posted on 01/15/2010 8:11:09 PM PST by Humble Servant (see y'all in the Gulag.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Exactly! Little packages and lots of them!! Drop them all over the place and keep them coming. Just get the water and some food in with first-aid kits, and ease the immediate needs.

Where are the brains in this rescue debacle?


43 posted on 01/15/2010 8:15:26 PM PST by Exit148 (Loose Change Founder. A little goes a long way!)
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To: Humble Servant

And from what I understand, most of these MRE’s were scooped up my the local tribal chiefs and doled out to the faithful.


44 posted on 01/15/2010 8:15:34 PM PST by doc1019 (To call Obama a bumbling idiot would be an insult to bumbling idiots worldwide.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Ya, well, the point is to try and save, not kill em.

Ranger is a bad choice.

US Army Engineers, US NAve SeeBees, USAF Red Horse - now those would be a good choice.

Got blocked roads? - send in M9 Engineering vehicles.

At some point, things will get better - I just don’t know when that will be...


45 posted on 01/15/2010 8:16:30 PM PST by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
This is a smart decision.

The goons with the sharpest machetes will get to the dropped supplies first.

Leni

46 posted on 01/15/2010 8:18:46 PM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: Red in Blue PA; xone

I’m sure you’ve seen this...


47 posted on 01/15/2010 8:28:15 PM PST by txhurl
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To: BigBobber

Just like we did in Afghanistan. Remember Chris Matthews calling the food packets ridiculous?


48 posted on 01/15/2010 8:47:14 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: dubie

:supply and demand. just “drop” in overwhelming force to outnumber the demand. carpet bomb the place with provisions.”

Bundles of bottled water, gloves and dried food would seem to be a smart thing to bundle together and drop in.


49 posted on 01/15/2010 8:54:59 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: BigBobber

I saw the tape of that drop in A-stan,,,

Seemed to work well,,,But,,,

IIRC the drop-zone was a large clear area,,,not sure,,,

That was only MRE’s,,,no water,,,

The MRE’s I have are 12” X 7.5”,,,12.4 oz. ,,,

I guess these would fall generally flat,,,?

Mite not hurt too bad if they hit somebody,,,

A 12 oz. bottle of water would kill,,,

No time to repackage,,,

Then there’s the number of people,,,

2-3 million,,,?

This will take ship loads,,,

Hopefully the Navy can get the port up and running and

the road fixed soon,,,

Sadly time is running out for many of the little kids...


50 posted on 01/15/2010 9:19:53 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: MinuteGal

Cholera is the main concern, contaminated water supplies
bad sanitation and it could run through the survivors
very fast. Bottled water and electrolytes will help but
a lot of people ARE GOING TO DIE!!!

This operation will be a real teaching tool in years to
come.


51 posted on 01/15/2010 9:21:07 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ZOOKER

Agree, well said.


52 posted on 01/15/2010 9:41:02 PM PST by MonicaG (Thank you to our military & veterans, with love & gratitude. XOXOXO)
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To: Nuc1
Do the drops and keep coming back. Once the people have the commodities in large numbers and understand that help is not going to leave them in the lurch, things should be OK. This riot stuff is more drama queen than anything else.

They're already rioting. What you want to prevent is people being trampled to death in a mad stampede for food (which will be blamed on us). There's also the consideration that the stronger element, armed with guns or machetes, will take all the supplies (which will also be blamed on us).

I believe the US Military has enough experience with Haiti to somewhat accurately predict the outcome of certain scenarios.

53 posted on 01/16/2010 3:16:44 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Ordering doctors out of hospitals. Probably to help some official who stubbed his toe.


54 posted on 01/16/2010 4:00:23 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters (Stuck with a RINO? Donate to a different district.)
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To: browardchad
Generally concur. My point was to get large amounts of say bottled water on the ground everywhere to preclude the ability of thugs being able to gather it all up thus preventing them from establishing a power base from which to hold people hostage. Plentiful supply prevents commodity price increases.
55 posted on 01/16/2010 7:56:47 AM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: isthisnickcool

One of my favorite shows from the 70’s. I love Herb Tarlek. He’s such a fool.


56 posted on 01/16/2010 9:52:01 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: txhurl

No, first time. Logistically foolish. People will die, some here don’t want to accept that. There is no law and order on Haiti, probably wasn’t much before the quake, airdrops might help a few but at a cost that isn’t sustainable.


57 posted on 01/16/2010 10:06:37 AM PST by xone
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To: txhurl; All

Honore: U.S. military should have reached Haiti sooner

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/01/14/haiti.us.aid/?hpt=T2


58 posted on 01/16/2010 11:50:57 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: xone

Hey Zone...

I took a look at videos of Haiti BEFORE the earthquake...I actually think the rubble has covered the filth seen in the poorest areas, and throughout the city. It was terrible before this happened.

I also listened to videos which spoke of the governance, elections and about and from the people. From this alone it is no wonder really why this nation has done so poorly.

The people remind me very much of Dark Africa, as it’s been called. In their beliefs and how they view life. I don’t believe possible to change this nation much from what it has been. They are unwilling to allow others to jumpstart them, rather only rescue each and every time these crisies occur.

The thugs are barbaric when they take control, and they do rule in many parts of haiti. The leadership that has been and currently uses these thugs to protect them from another coup.Meanwhile the thugs terrorize the population.

The danger for people that want to help is great there, especially now as the days pass. Just a bad situtation overall.


59 posted on 01/16/2010 5:02:36 PM PST by caww
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To: ZOOKER

I agree 100%.


60 posted on 01/16/2010 5:42:28 PM PST by RoseyT (Pineywoods of East Texas)
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