Posted on 01/13/2010 6:22:33 PM PST by TaxPayer2000
I read the proposed rules and I think the concerns of the California New Car Dealers Association are spot-on:
CARB is proposing to require every repair dealer to check the inflation of every tire during repair to improve mpg for all vehicles which, in theory, is meritorious.
However (the) regs. CARB’s pushing through (released this week and subject to a 15 day comment period) ... provides that the only times that consumers may decline a check and inflate service—they can never decline the service if it’s offered for free—is when they are charged for services AND if they can PROVE (with DOCUMENTATION!) that they’ve had their tires checked and inflated in the last 30 days, or if they WILL do so within the next week. It is unclear, but possible, that CARB could take enforcement action against the consumer if they don’t follow through with their promise?!
Note that even the Department of Consumer Affairs opposed the last draft of these rules—letter attached (and I’m guessing these amendments won’t remove their opposition). CARB’s not messing around with these either—the potential penalty for violating the regulation is at least up to $1,000 per violation and six months imprisonment. The enforcement section referred to by CARB states that a violation of the regulation shall be “deemed to result in an emission of air contaminants,” potentially leading to even harsher penalties.
Too much. CARB is interpeting AB 32 in such absurdly broad fashion it wants to deputize the state's auto boards to bully all vehicle owners. It's too much for Brian Stiver, director of the state Department of Consumer Affairs, and Sherry Mehl, chief of the state Bureau of Auto Repairs:
Unless (Automotive Service Providers) offer the (tire check/inflation) service for free to the consumer and the consumer accepts it, the regulation would have the effect of either forcing the ASPs to check tires without the consent of the consumer in violation of the ... Automotive Repair Act, or force ASPs to refuse to provide any repair services at all to the consumer. These are legally untenable options ...
When does the backlash begin? These people are insane.
Note the "documentation" requirement for vehicle owners who say their tires are properly inflated. These owners can't be trusted to do this complex procedure all by themselves and then tell the truth about it. No, they have to GET OUTSIDE PROOF!
I will ask the gov's office if it backs the nuts at the air board or the sane people from the state Department of Consumer Affairs.
ADDENDUM, 3:20 P.M.:
It’s a still a draft rule – agencies are engaged in discussions and we’re helping them work it out. We’d like to see the rule get to a place where Californians are conscious of tire pressure and the impact it has on air quality – but without anything that would stick unsuspecting consumers with a bill.
from Amanda Fulkerson in the gov's office.
"..the only times that consumers may decline a check and inflate service—they can never decline the service if it’s offered for free—is when they are charged for services AND if they can PROVE (with DOCUMENTATION!) that they’ve had their tires checked and inflated in the last 30 days, or if they WILL do so within the next week."
"..the potential penalty for violating the regulation is at least up to $1,000 per violation and six months imprisonment. The enforcement section referred to by CARB states that a violation of the regulation shall be “deemed to result in an emission of air contaminants,” potentially leading to even harsher penalties."
“six months imprisonment”
We’ve already got 2,000,000 people in prison and they want to force more into prison. When do we get to jail our elected officials for bribery and tyranny?
All persons who are Public Employees or Public Servants that make any FALSE or MISLEADING Statement at any time during the course of their Duties shall be guilty of a FELONY punishable by Mandatory 20 years in Prison and Complete Civil Asset Forfeiture. The Act of making false or misleading statements by GOVERNMENT AGENTS shall be “deemed to result in an emission of air contaminants,” .
That's it, keep pushing.
More.
More.
More.
Don't worry, you'll know when you've gone far enough.
How out of touch is Barack Obama? He’s so out of touch that he suggested that if all Americans inflated their tires properly and took their cars for regular tune-ups, they could save as much oil as new offshore drilling would produce. Gleeful Republicans have made this their daily talking point; Rush Limbaugh is having a field day; and the Republican National Committee is sending tire gauges labeled “Barack Obama’s Energy Plan” to Washington reporters.
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1829354,00.html#ixzz0cYBSmP3a
I enjoy running my two-stroke dirt bikes rich and smokey like.
This will be nothing more than another box for mechanics to quickly check off, and no, most of them will never actually check the tire pressure.
Oh, they could do something sappy like offering people who come in at least four times a year for a state paid tire pressure top-off, a “green award” in the mail with their car registration renewal. Then they can put the green award on their windshield and feel so proud. And nobody is intruded upon.
Now what are you going to do about the situation of people who keep higher tire pressures than the door placard says? Many tires are rated for operation at higher (sometimes much higher) pressures than the car manufacturer called for. If you let air out of these tires you will be hurting gas mileage. On the other hand, if you bring the lower tire on an axle up to whatever the lowest rated tire on that axle taxes, you risk making SUVs and vans more roll over prone.
Blitz us with advertisements, send out sappy promotions, whatever, but keep your jackboots off of my tires.
This is only the start for these ‘power-hungry’ idiots.
taxes => takes
OK-— I heard the new law was; Car owners had to weigh each tire every 6 months and pay a CARBON TIRE BLACK fee for every ounce they wore off the tires.
“When does the backlash begin? These people are insane. “
No worries, no backlash... Your neighbors want this kind of government or we wouldn’t have it. I’ll bet you money you can find people here on FREErepublic that will support the measure.
In a couple of years when channel surfing there will be a show on about California tire inflation inspectors hitting repair shops and nailing uncooperative mechanics.
“Yeah, we went into the service call with the driver’s side tire deflated down to 25lbs and we verified the pressure is still the same after the oil change, so we’re gonna go back and write this guy up for violating the law.”
Way too lenient. I think the penalty should be death, or at the very least life imprisonment with no possibility of parole.
Edit: ““Yeah, we went into the service call with the driver’s side tire deflated down to 25lbs and we verified the pressure is still the same after the oil change, so we’re gonna go back and write this guy up for violating the law.””
“yes”
Mr. Sanchez this is agent smith, I’m agent Jones we brought this car in for service and you did not check the tire inflation, you know, that’s a $1000 fine.
“No habla Ingles”
Usually, joints that do oil changes will top off the tires too, it’s part of the deal. Without a look at the unwanted consequences or the magnitude of the problem, the jackboots waltz right in.
I’d call the cops on the @$$ inspector who lowered a tire to 25 psi under, telling them that this person was knowingly driving an unsafe vehicle.
I don't know why I thought this picture would fit this topic, but maybe it has something to do with cows and global warming hysteria.
Having a cow, of course.
I always make it a point to check my tire pressure AFTER someone works on my car. I quite often find the tires over inflated.
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