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Hungarian Physicist Dr. Ferenc Miskolczi proves CO2 emissions irrelevant in Earth’s Climate
Examiner.com ^ | 1-12-2010 | Dianna Cotter

Posted on 01/12/2010 7:46:53 AM PST by Danae

For years now, we have been told that science is dedicatedly attempting to find out how the Earth’s Climate works. With all possible seriousness, the most publically vocal of these scientists, those working for the UN’s IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), have for the last several years blamed the warming they “found” on Carbon Dioxide. With the release of the CRU (Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia) email database, it is very clearly apparent that the scientists involved with the IPCC were doctoring data to give a specific result. That result was designed to look as if CO2was causing climate change, warming the earth due to Human activities. It can be reported now that this theory has been solidly disproven by Dr. Ferenc Miskolczi and Dr. Miskolczi’s work will make history.

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Dr. Miskolczi’s Constant was discovered with a program that is the result of a project started 25 years ago in Hungary. It was then he began the process of writing a high-resolution radiative transfer program which would describe the Earth’s climate using the TIGR Global radiosonde archive of the Laboratoire de Meteorologie Dynamique, Paris database. With this information he was able to accurately describe mathematically how the atmosphere absorbs and releases heat using a long standing Equation called the Schwarzschild-Milne transfer equation to accurately calculate the Earths infrared optical depth. That is what Global climate is; the process by which Earth either holds onto or releases heat. The IPCC and the CRU scientists would have us believe that CO2 increases the heat the atmosphere holds on an infinite unlimited basis. That conclusion is absolutely false, and the CRU and the IPCC have had to falsify and invent data to make it appear that it does.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climate; climaticresearchunit; co2; cru; ferencmiskolczi; globalwarming; hungary; ipcc; mikloszagoni; nasa; univofeastanglia
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MUCH more at the link, along with two scientific papers that contain both summaries of this discovery, as well as the very complex math that went into it.
1 posted on 01/12/2010 7:46:53 AM PST by Danae
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To: aflaak

ping


2 posted on 01/12/2010 7:55:33 AM PST by r-q-tek86 (It isn't settled because it isn't science)
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To: Danae

All one needs to know about CO2 is that its presence in the atmosphere is nearly minuscule: four parts per 10,000. Still waiting for the Chicken Littles in Congress (Markey, Inslee, Boxer, et al) to explain the scientific phenomenon by which those molecules could “trap heat.”

Cannot be done.


3 posted on 01/12/2010 7:57:41 AM PST by DennisR
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To: Danae

Bookmark.


4 posted on 01/12/2010 8:06:16 AM PST by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: DennisR

Completely true!

Its unbelievable that the “power’s that be” are still pushing “green” programs, and offering 5 Million in grant funding just in the last week for more or less providing MORE literature on CO2 wrecking the planet.

Its just insane. I Could use that 5 Million, and I can guarantee that I would do more good with it than any “scientist” working on ways to prove the impossible.


5 posted on 01/12/2010 8:16:05 AM PST by Danae (Don't think the Constitution matters? Try living in a country without one.)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping to the Hot Air Cult


6 posted on 01/12/2010 8:18:58 AM PST by Danae (Don't think the Constitution matters? Try living in a country without one.)
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To: Danae

One stupid error the editor probably made: -18C is not -68F. It looks like someone just figured that since +18C = +68F it must be the same for below zero. But -18C is +0.4F.


7 posted on 01/12/2010 8:36:45 AM PST by Procyon (The most controversial two words you can ever utter in a public space are "Jesus Christ.")
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To: Danae

Nice technical presentation.

The key thing is that the solutions to the differential equations the AGW folk have used were derived under the simplifying assumption of a semi-infinite atmosphere, which the Earth (or for that matter any other planet in the universe) does not have. Miskolczi resolved the equations with a realistic boundary condition (the earth has a finite-thickness atmosphere) using a different, realistic, simplifying assumption, that the atmosphere is semi-transparent (semi because of clouds) (unlike the atmosphere of Venus) and got predictions that agree with observation on both Earth and Mars, and the prediction that run-away greenhouse warming is flat impossible (well unless the Earth’s atmosphere were to cease to be semi-transparent)


8 posted on 01/12/2010 8:41:36 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: DennisR

I think AGW is a crock too, but I wouldn’t use your argument. Just because the CO2 proportion of air is measured in hundreds of PPM doesn’t mean it’s insignificant. For instance consider the mass of the insulation in your house as a ratio of the total mass of the house. Or look at poisons, 1.5 PPM of Cyanide by mass will turn a person into a corpse. Beware the fallacy of really big or small numbers.


9 posted on 01/12/2010 8:44:49 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Stop the change - I want to get off!)
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To: DennisR
I have explained this little known fact to as many people as I possibly can. Most if not all people including those with advanced degrees do not know CO2's concentration in the atmosphere relative to the other gases.

You also bring up another very valid point. What the hell is the mechanism by which the CO2 molecules are able to trap the energy from the sun. And given the minuscule concentration of CO2, how do these molecules transfer their energy to the other gas molecules in the atmosphere.

Surely, the Al Gore should be able to explain this in another Oscar winning movie.

It is long past the time for rebellion!

10 posted on 01/12/2010 8:47:09 AM PST by free from tyranny
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To: Danae

BM


11 posted on 01/12/2010 9:07:42 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Danae

Bump because this really is hugh and series!

Now we have much more than just saying the other guys are wrong.

This puts forward an alternative model of planetary thermal equilibrium (aka AGW, climate change, etc.).

Brilliant!!!


12 posted on 01/12/2010 9:20:38 AM PST by Willgamer (Rex Lex or Lex Rex?)
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To: Danae; rdl6989; mmanager; FreedomPoster; carolinablonde; bamahead; Delacon; SteamShovel; ...
Thanx !

 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

13 posted on 01/12/2010 9:21:38 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Freedom from fat cat greedy Big Government tyranny IS a Right ... It IS the Constitution.)
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To: Jack of all Trades
For instance consider the mass of the insulation in your house as a ratio of the total mass of the house

This analogy is way off as the mass of the insulation relates only to the envelope area in which it is situated. The envelope area / insulation density is closer to 50% I think. If your insulation was same concentration as is atmospheric CO2 you would have been very cold this last week.

14 posted on 01/12/2010 9:40:49 AM PST by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: dusttoyou

My point still is that just because a number seems really small, you can’t just arbitrarily assume it’s insignificant.


15 posted on 01/12/2010 9:56:12 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Stop the change - I want to get off!)
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To: Danae

Great post. Thanks.


16 posted on 01/12/2010 10:17:44 AM PST by Excellence (Meet your new mother-in-law, the United States Government)
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To: steelyourfaith

And check THIS out, these Physicists are getting CENSORED for finding the TRUTH!!!

http://geoplasma.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!C00F2616F39D0B2B!895.entry

January 03
Another Scientist Silenced

The deft hand of the socialism hasn’t really left us, as the following note received via email shows.

Why Dr Ferenc Miskolczi and Dr Miklos Zagoni have been put under pressure to be silent about Miskolczi`s research concerning the atmosphere and the greenhouse effect.

In 2004 Dr Ferenc Miskolczi published a paper ’The greenhouse effect and the spectral decomposition of the clear-sky terrestrial radiation’, in the Quarterly Journal of the Hungarian Meteorological Service (Vol. 108, No. 4, October–December 2004, pp. 209–251.).

The co-author of the article was his boss at NASA (Martin Mlynczak). Mlynczak put his name to the paper but did no work on it. He thought that it was an important paper, but only in a technical way.

When Miskolczi later informed the group at NASA there that he had more important results, they finally understood the whole story, and tried to withhold Miskolczi’s further material from publication. His boss for example, sat at Ferenc’s computer, logged in with Ferenc`s password, and canceled a recently submitted paper from a high-reputation journal as if Ferenc had withdrawn it himself. That was the reason that Ferenc finally resigned from his ($US 90.000 /year) job.

I want to make it clear: NASA never falsified or even tried to falsify Ferenc`s results, on the contrary, they fully understand it. They know that it is correct and see how important it is. To make sense of their actions, they probably see a national security issue in it. Perhaps they think that AGW is the only way to stop, or to slow, the coal-based growth of China.

In my circumstance where I have been dismissed from my Government paid position in Hungary, I think the information vacuum (in Hungary), has the same type of origin. I believe someone is in the background trying to convince the establishment (media, science, politics) that Miskolczi’s results are against our national security interests. First, they tried to frighten me, and then when that did not work, they kicked me out from my job. So now I am turning to the wider internet to publicise Miskolczi`s work, as I know that his results are valid and true. There is no way and no need to hold them back for the world to understand them.

Tomorrow, for the first time in my life, I am jobless.
Budapest, 31 Dec, 2009

Dr Miklos Zagoni
(57)
physicist
Hungary
http://miskolczi.webs.com


17 posted on 01/12/2010 10:21:34 AM PST by Danae (Don't think the Constitution matters? Try living in a country without one.)
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To: Danae

Bump!


18 posted on 01/12/2010 10:30:01 AM PST by NonLinear (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: NonLinear

bttt


19 posted on 01/12/2010 10:58:36 AM PST by Danae (Don't think the Constitution matters? Try living in a country without one.)
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To: Danae

bttt


20 posted on 01/12/2010 11:13:28 AM PST by Danae (Don't think the Constitution matters? Try living in a country without one.)
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