I’m doing something I’ve never done before.
Calling for this thread to be pulled.
This entire thread is abuse in my opinion, absolute trash. And you in particular.
The idea that Harry Reid in any way represents Mormons or follows Mormonism is an joke.
I find some of the posts on this thread shocking in their bigotry and misrepresentations.
And no, I’m not a Mormon.
The idea that Harry Reid in any way represents Mormons or follows Mormonism is an joke.
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Ummm...vinnie, since you are not Mormon, how do you know that it is a “joke” that Reid represents Mormons or follows Mormonism. He is a faithful Latter-day Saint and there is much of Mormonism that Gentiles (non Mormons) are not aware of or that is only discussed amongst other LDS faithful.
CC, grey, colofornians, SZ and I (among others) have seen this other side as members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
I was a Mormon for over 40 years, and my husband, mother, brother, in-laws and extended family are all Mormons.
I really don’t think you have the knowledge of Mormonism to call me trash or tell me this thread is misrepresentative in any way.
But I’ve met irrational freepers before....believe me, you aren’t the first.
This entire thread is abuse in my opinion, absolute trash. And you in particular.
I find some of the posts on this thread shocking in their bigotry and misrepresentations.
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Care to point out the bigotry and misrepresentations?
You're calling a poster "trash" and you want the thread removed -- but not your post or you as a poster?
The idea that Harry Reid in any way represents Mormons or follows Mormonism is an joke. I find some of the posts on this thread shocking in their bigotry and misrepresentations.
Well, I don't know what your reason is, but I know that when quotes/excerpts like those you'll find in post #32 (by Greyfoxx) & post #50 (by Reaganaut) are placed right into the lap of some people, they are just too historically lazy to want to confirm if those quotes are so.
So, my challenge to you, Vinnie, is to read those quotes. Check on them. Only then will you know if it's "representational" of Mormonism. Here's just a brief rundown of a few quotes when I checked it out for myself:
LDS Mormon Apostle Bruce R. McConkie: "Those who were less valiant in the pre-existence and who thereby had certain spiritual restrictions imposed upon them during mortality are known to us as the negroes. Such spirits are sent to earth through the lineage of Cain, the mark put upon him for his rebellion against God and his murder of Abel being a black skin.... Noah's son Ham married Egyptus, a descendant of Cain, thus preserving the negro lineage through the flood....The negroes are not equal with other races when the receipt of certain spiritual blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow therefrom, but this inequality is not of man's origin. It is the Lord's doing, based on His eternal laws of justice, and grows out of the lack of spiritual valiance of those concerned in their first estate." (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1972, 10th printing, pages 527-528...please note that this book was published by Bookcraft in Salt Lake City and was carefully revised in the mid-1960s under the tutelage of a future Lds "prophet" -- Spencer Kimball -- and was approved by the then Lds "prophet" Harold B. Lee...and Bookcraft was eventually acquired by the Lds church)
All during the 1960s, the president of the quorum of McConkie & other Lds apostles was Joseph Fielding Smith, grandnephew of Joseph Smith; seven years after he wrote the following letter became the Lds "prophet":
"According to the doctrine of the Church, the Negro, because of some condition of unfaithfulness in the spirit--or pre-existence, was not valiant and hence was not denied the mortal probation, but was denied the blessings of the Priesthood." (JFS Letter to Joseph H. Henderson, April 10, 1963...
Darron Smith, a black Lds convert, wrote: "...even though the priesthood ban was repealed in 1978, the discourse that constructs what blackness means is still very much intact today...Hence there are Church members today who continue to summon and teach at every level of Church education the racial discourse that blacks are descendants of Cain, that they merited lesser earthly privilege because they were 'fence-sitters' in the War in Heaven, and that, science and climatic factors aside, there is a link between skin color and righteousness...("The Persistence of Racialized Discourse in Mormonism," by Darron Smith, Sunstone, March 2003, pp. 31-33).
Even the Bible dictionary in the LDS version of the KJV Bible intones at this: The warfare is continued in mortality in the conflict between right and wrong; between the gospel and false principles, etc. The same contestants and the same issues are doing battle, and the same salvation is at stake. Although one-third of the spirits became devils, the remaining two-thirds were not all equally valiant, there being every degree of devotion to Christ and the Father among them. The most diligent were chosen to be rulers in the kingdom (Abraham 3:22-23). The nature of the conflict, however, is such that there could be no neutrals...
First of all, my apologies to JR for pinging him regarding my post if he finds it, or this entire line of posting trite and inane.
To Vinnie: I find it interesting that you are now the arbiter of what is and isn’t “trash”. I do know as an apostate that the posts you refer to here as “trash” are very representative and factual regarding the belief system of the mormons.
And for magritte to take the victim mentality road and claim that it is condoned by FR, therefore Jim Robinson, as anti-mormon without the courtesy ping to Jim Robinson (You are posting about him after all and it is considered proper FR etiquette to ping those you post about.)is immature to say the least.
Just because you disagree about the comparisons being made regarding Reid and what he claims to believe vs. his actual behavior that demonstrate his blatant hypocrisy, the AM should now be induced into shutting down the thread?
If you don’t like this thread or its content, post your own rebutting it in the RF and make it closed to debate. That way, you can have your cake and eat it too without the intrusion of opposing opinions and those pesky facts. Otherwise, might I suggest you quit your bellyaching to the AM.
Btw Vinnie, calling another FReeper “trash” is just plain rude and uncalled for. I would ask the AM to evaluate YOUR post on its merits and decide whether or not you deserve a “time out” for such a childish remark (name calling).
Although I am firmly of the opinion that if Colorcountry wanted to, she would ask the AM herself which she hasn’t. (She’s bigger and better than the so-called FReeper calling her “trash”)
SZ
Gee...
When will this happen?
I have LOTS of things to say!
I find some of the posts on this thread shocking in their bigotry and misrepresentations.
Could you point out what you consider to be misrepresented?
I would HATE that anyone GUESS at the wrong stuff!
Shocking in their bigotry and misrepresentations. I wish ldsers would stop calling people names and belittling them, and stop misrepresenting who they really are and what they believe.
It is annoying.