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401k/IRA Screw Job Coming?
Market Ticker ^ | 01/08/2009 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 01/08/2010 11:07:28 AM PST by Zeddicus

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To: Brilliant
My suspicion is that this leads to civil war.

I think you could be right. I won't allow the government to steal my 401K money and I believe there are millions more like me.

61 posted on 01/08/2010 12:26:40 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Snardius; Brilliant

One thing to remember -

leftists would LOVE any excuse to use the power of the state to kill/exterminate their political opponents.

They may be intentionally pushing a civil war, or a Rev II, with the very idea of having an excuse to kill conservatives and individualists.


62 posted on 01/08/2010 12:26:47 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: junta

I think Japan has basically done this by not allowing its serfs to invest outside of their country, then using this money to fund and out of control government spending.


63 posted on 01/08/2010 12:32:12 PM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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NOTE TO THE OVER 50 CROWD IN THE MSM:

Are you willing to cover for the Democrats even if it means busting your own future? Wise up already. This is no longer a left-right thing. It's about the survival of AMERICA!

64 posted on 01/08/2010 12:32:26 PM PST by jersey117
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To: Mich Patriot
DAMN!!! Every time I think I’ve got enough 9MM on hand, another story like this comes out.

I think a better caliber for this fight would be 30.06 or .223...

"A pistol is what you use to fight your way back to your rifle."

65 posted on 01/08/2010 12:33:14 PM PST by Snardius
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To: Polynikes
"as the interest rates on T's are kept artificially low"

Do you know anything safe with an interest rate that's worth a damn

66 posted on 01/08/2010 12:33:22 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: I am Richard Brandon
Do you know anything safe with an interest rate that's worth a damn

I think the new reality we've got live with is the harsh truth that nothing is "safe" anymore. IMO, the best you can do is put your money somewhere where your access to it is maximized and the government's access is minimized.

With money in a 401, the government has instant access with a stroke of the pen and a few mouse clicks. If it's in a safe in your basement however, they have to be willing to physically come and kill you to get it.

A little while ago, I never imagined I would find myself expressing the thoughts of the previous paragraphs. This is what happens when the actions of our politicians utterly destroys one's confidence in the government and our institutions. It's not good.

67 posted on 01/08/2010 12:42:35 PM PST by Zeddicus
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To: Zeddicus
In the meantime, folks who are living off their savings are SCREWED!
68 posted on 01/08/2010 12:45:52 PM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: MrB
They may be intentionally pushing a civil war, or a Rev II, with the very idea of having an excuse to kill conservatives and individualists.

Well good luck with that. There aren't enough of them with weapons to accomplish that...and the armed forces/police wouldn't be on board with that for very long.

69 posted on 01/08/2010 12:45:57 PM PST by Snardius
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To: Taylor42
If they move on this I will cash out my IRA’s, pay the penalty and pay off my house.

What makes you think they're going to let you keep your home?

70 posted on 01/08/2010 12:48:01 PM PST by Snardius
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To: Snardius

That’s why 0bama says
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded,”


71 posted on 01/08/2010 12:53:47 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: All
All this talk about where to stash your money if there is a revolution/civil war is pointless. Because if this country melts down like that, the US currency will become worthless. We'll be using something else as a medium of exchange...something that is valuable and easily trade-able.
72 posted on 01/08/2010 12:55:29 PM PST by Snardius
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To: Zeddicus
Question for people smarter than me... how do I figure out the monthly dividend if I were to open a Money Market acct with the following terms:

Money - 42K
APY - 0.60%
Rate - 0.60%
Dividends Paid - Monthly

I looked for a calculator online, but could not find one.
thanks in advance for any help.

73 posted on 01/08/2010 12:56:55 PM PST by FightforFreedomCA (Pelosi is a wretched, communist, b!#*&)
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To: Snardius

Just a bit of an adjustment, the medium of exchange needs to have INHERENT value and utility, as well as be easily tradeable.

The “medium” that best matches this, imho, is ammo.

Gold & silver MIGHT have limited trade utility, but you can’t “use” a gold or silver coin.


74 posted on 01/08/2010 12:58:07 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: OB1kNOb

a poster to the Telegraph article says —

nathan_redshield on Nov 3rd, 2008 at 6:32 am

As for the US confiscating the retirement funds of Americans, there is an obscure 1886 US Supreme Court decision that might stand in the way.

-—— would that bother a lib SCOTUS I wonder?


75 posted on 01/08/2010 12:58:46 PM PST by all_mighty_dollar
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To: MrB
We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded,”

OK, so it'll be the "civilian national security force" against the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, sheriffs, police, NRA, and just maybe a covert force made up of Chinese and Mexican troops to pick up territory when it's over.

76 posted on 01/08/2010 1:01:11 PM PST by Snardius
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To: Zeddicus

And, let’s keep in mind that all this is going to pay welfare. We should be dismantling welfare now while it can (maybe) be done in a somewhat orderly fashion.


77 posted on 01/08/2010 1:01:20 PM PST by The Duke
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To: FightforFreedomCA

Briefly:

0.6% apy = 0.05% / month

0.0005 X 42,000 = $21

Your 42k won’t even yield enough to fill your gas tank once a month.


78 posted on 01/08/2010 1:01:30 PM PST by Zeddicus
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To: Lancey Howard
While I wouldn't criticize your diversifying into gold I always felt if you can't eat it, drink it, sleep under it or shoot it then a gold bar makes for a cold companion.

Check out
http://ferfal.blogspot.com/
He has some interesting reading regarding gold and silver from a boots on the ground perspective.

79 posted on 01/08/2010 1:03:00 PM PST by Polynikes (Haakkaa Paalle)
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To: FightforFreedomCA

0.60% isn’t worth your time even if you reinvest the dividend...


80 posted on 01/08/2010 1:07:30 PM PST by Snardius
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