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1 posted on 01/08/2010 7:22:41 AM PST by Tolik
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2 posted on 01/08/2010 7:24:29 AM PST by Tolik
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Obamao has not forgotten the lessons learned, he has chosen to ignore the lessons learned.


3 posted on 01/08/2010 7:25:43 AM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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"Hasan hated American soldiers not because our system had discriminated against him, much less because of “secondary post-traumatic-stress syndrome,” or any of the other wacky excuses that followed his crime. Instead, in part he sensed that the American military had bent over backwards for him and accommodated his extremism — and was therefore, in his own distorted worldview, weak, decadent, and deserving of what he would dish out."

"That’s something that’s very important to me. And I’ve said before that one of the great strengths of the United States is - although as I mentioned, we have a very large Christian population, we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation; we consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values." - Barack Obama

4 posted on 01/08/2010 7:30:14 AM PST by jessduntno ("Speak endlessly and carry a small stick..." - B. Hussein Obama)
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VDH is preachin’ to the choir, here

“We” never forgot those lessons

but some of “us” never learned them at all or drew completely false conclusions (ie, the democrat gang that can't (and won't) shoot straight and the insane clown posse now in the WH) that STILL thinks they can win over radical islamists by being nice to them (when has this ever worked in the history of dealing with islam?)

Al qaeda seems to have learned a lot more lessons than the US liberals and the democrat party

And GWB- good man, but surrendered to PC and let us and himself be rolled by the democrats and that absurd “9-11 Commission”

5 posted on 01/08/2010 7:32:44 AM PST by silverleaf
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“Instead, in part he sensed that the American military had bent over backwards for him and accommodated his extremism — and was therefore, in his own distorted worldview, weak, decadent, and deserving of what he would dish out. “

Sensing weakness and acting against it is normal for humans. While his methodology was alien to me, the fact that the west IS weak, decadent, and vulnerable is, as far as I can tell, correct.

The US is the sick, aging giant, and the wolves are circling, especially given the govt debt implosion coming down the road not too far for the dollar and the ease with which our own governerning institutions and persons are compromised/bought.


6 posted on 01/08/2010 7:34:36 AM PST by WoofDog123
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The bombers in England not long ago, were highly trained physicians.


8 posted on 01/08/2010 9:12:02 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are my guns loaded? Break in and find out.)
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...meet the new boss,same as the old boss:

***U.S. (still) Can’t Trace Foreign Visitors on Expired Visas*** 10/11/2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/us/12visa.html?_r=2&th&emc=th

DALLAS — Eight years after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and despite repeated mandates from Congress, the United States still has no reliable system for verifying that foreign visitors have left the country. New concern was focused on that security loophole last week, when Hosam Maher Husein Smadi, a 19-year-old Jordanian who had overstayed his tourist visa, was accused in court of plotting to blow up a Dallas skyscraper. Last year alone, 2.9 million foreign visitors on temporary visas like Mr. Smadi’s checked in to the country but never officially checked out, immigration officials said...
...officials said, about 40 percent of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States came on legal visas and overstayed.
Smadi’s case has brought renewed calls (for) a universal electronic exit monitoring system.

But despite several Congressional authorizations, there are no biometric inspections or a systematic follow-up to confirm that foreign visitors have departed. Homeland security officials caution that universal exit monitoring is a daunting and costly goal...The wrong exit plan could clog trade, disrupt border cities and overwhelm immigration agencies with information they could not effectively use...airlines balked at an effort last year by the Bush administration to make them responsible for taking fingerprints and photographs of departing foreigners.
The current system relies on departing foreigners to turn in a paper stub when they leave....

Mr. Smadi was able to fade easily into society and encountered few barriers to starting a life here, according to court documents...He enrolled in high school, obtained a California identification card, landed jobs in two states and rented a string of apartments and houses. He bought at least two used cars, and even procured a handgun and ammunition...
Read more at nytimes.com ...

“Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity.”

(yeah, our gubermint is infinitely stupid.)


9 posted on 01/08/2010 11:12:45 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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A Major Nidal Hasan or an Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab wishes to kill Westerners not because he is poor or even on behalf of the poor, but rather out of a warped sense of pride, hurt, and anger.

"but rather out of a warped sense of pride, hurt, and anger."
I believe the author doesn't know what the cause is if he believes that nonsense.

They are not killing themselves for those reasons.

What is causing this is believing there is only one God and Muhammed is his prophet, and following to the letter the Koran and Hadiths; to get an eternal reward.- Tom

10 posted on 01/08/2010 2:24:58 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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