BURNIN' DOWN THE TENT!!!
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Posted on 01/08/2010 6:18:55 AM PST by MestaMachine
BURNIN' DOWN THE TENT!!!
Do we want action? Yes, we do!!!
Are we willing to take a giant step forward and create a central action site that allows us to see at a glance every single state’s candidates for national office, House and Senate, to separate the wheat from the chaff? That is our hope. We want to spend our money, our time, and our votes wisely. Our time is JUST as valuable as the money we spend.
The goal is to take back and take over the GOP, or move it out of the way, and elect conservatives to every office we can affect whether the RNC likes it or not.
To do this, we need a clearinghouse and a plan of action that encompasses all 50 states in ONE place. That place is Free Republic. THIS is where we nationalize the 2010 election cycle and choose where our money and our time is spent. The genius of Free Republic is that it already has the 50 state message boards. We don’t have to “google” our way through hundreds of candidates in individual states to find out who is who doing what. It’s already here, just not out in the public eye. This will change that.
I, and others, have repeatedly asked Freepers to present workable ideas with this goal in mind, and there have been many, but the two I am going to post here are comprehensive, have been well thought out over a long period of time, and the magic of it is that it has never been tried before...and THAT is precisely why it will work.
Freeper blueyon, (the originator of RINO FREE AMERICA PROJECT on FaceBook,) and I have worked on the idea to have each state message board create individual STATE BY STATE threads on the forum which presents information ONLY about their national congressional candidates.
We need their candidates’ names, pictures, platforms, voting records, (if applicable,) backgrounds, opinions, newslinks, statements, and whatever other information might be available including links to candidate’s’ websites if they exist.
The state message boards are full of much of this information and no one knows local politics like the locals. It’s time to make local politics national, and here is where we do it. Fifty states, fifty threads, ALL politics will be Free Republic Local politics.
Freepers have the best researchers in the business. We need that right here, right now if we are going to burn down the RINO tent and do it effectively. They will NOT be allowed to silence us again.
Those threads will be information only. Conservative candidates will be flagged and RINOs will be tagged. Anyone who wishes to debate or discuss individual candidates can start a separate thread for that here, AND/OR on the RINO FREE discussion board on FaceBook as well.
I expect these threads to become lengthy, so be sure to add the state and candidate's name as keywords.
The SECOND part of this plan is a NATIONAL strategy for accomplishing our goal once we have singled out the candidates we choose to support and gather THOSE candidates on to ONE thread. It is our intent to coordinate efforts with the National Tea Party Movement and have them link to our information as well as share whatever info they might have that we don’t...although I find that next to impossible knowing Freepers. There just might be tidbits of inside information we might not have access to, so contributions from outside Freeperdom will be researched by us FOR us and we will do well not to post rumor or inuendo if we have no proof.
The National Action plan is the sole hard work of a longtime Freeper who has asked to remain anonymous. It is his work and since he first sent it to me, he has updated it several times for the better. I neither take, nor deserve, any credit for it whatsover, and only on that basis did I accept the invitation to present it as I saw fit.
I have opted to make only the smallest changes to his ideas as they seem to me to be the stepstones of the future. However he did specifically ask that any constructive criticisms or additional ideas be sought and wants it known that this is a foundation we can build on. He has added reasons, including some from Scripture, for these ideas which are included in the body of information presented below. Many of you will find them relevant. Those who don’t will still find the ideas themselves worth your time. I am awed by the effort put forth here which is why I have left it pretty much in tact with minimal edits. I think you will be as well.
With that said, and without further adieu, continue on and see what ideas suit you best.
Oh! And ummm, Ruth converted and proclaimed it to GOD and Naomi.
Ruth Chapter 1
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And they lifted up their voice, and wept again; and Orpah kissed her mother-in-law; but Ruth cleaved unto her.
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And she said: ‘Behold, thy sister-in-law is gone back unto her people, and unto her god; return thou after thy sister-in-law.’
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And Ruth said: ‘Entreat me not to leave thee, and to return from following after thee; for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge; thy people shall be my people, and thy G-d my G-d;
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where thou diest, will I die, and there will I be buried; HaShem do so to me, and more also, if aught but death part thee and me.’
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And when she saw that she was stedfastly minded to go with her, she left off speaking unto her.
Sharia IS islam, wagglebee. You cannot separate one from the other.
“If your father is Jewish, but your mother is NOT, YOU are not Jewish...”
“Oh! And ummm, Ruth converted and proclaimed it to GOD and Naomi”
So what you are saying is it is not the mother’s physical genealogy that determine whether one is a Jew or not, it is her faith that determines.
When the prophets say that Messiah will come from the tribe of Judah and the lineage of David they didn’t really mean physical lineage, just that the mother had the same faith as the tribe of Judah and David.
Jesus mother was from Davids line.
No, dear. It’s her genes. Semantics is not a game you want to play with me. HOUSE OF DAVID and HOUSE OF AARON is the combination that is given for the Messiah. And I say again, if your mother is NOT Jewish, you ain’t either unless you convert WILLINGLY. See that is also key here. Jews are not supposed to proseltyze. They don’t go around actively seeking conversions, so if someone comes in and ASKS to convert, unlike the ancient days where a woman could profess faith in HaShem since there was no ruling authority EXCEPT GOD, and live accordingly, that is not how it is done today. You act as though nearly six thousand years has not gone by on the Hebrew calendar.
A lot of things have changed over time, but that your bloodline is determined by the female and not the male is one of the main tenets of Judaism and has been since Sarah. Nothing has changed it...ever. And if it doesn’t fit in your idea of what SHOULD be according to you, that is just tough. Facts is facts, whether you like them or not.
Keep it coming. I am just learning so much from you.
Were the covenant promises made to Abraham or Sarah?
Were Rebekkah and Rachel Jews when they married Isaac and Jacob?
proselytize
scusa me
There were no Jews until the tribe of Judah. Abraham and Sarah were not Jews, they were Abrahamites. Issac and Jacob weren’t Jews either. So neither were their wives.
Goodnight MM!
Where do you get this? Israel was supposed to be a light to the nations. Jesus remonstrance (woe) to the Pharisees was that not that they were proselytizing but they were enslaving the proselytes with their onerous oral tradition.
Are you freaking serious? What do Covenant promises have to do with motherhood or being the head of a family or following bloodlines? The blood of the mother determines WHO gets the Covenant. Who is in and who is not. Those women and their children who were not in upon Abraham’s death were given gifts and sent on their way. But ISAAC inherited.
I am not gonna repeat the entire Old Testament to you. You should be aware by now that I am not stupid and have given you cold hard facts. Challenging me just to challenge me is bordering on desperation. Neither Isaac nor Jacob were permitted to marry Canaanite women. They were sent to their KINFOLK for a wives. That worshipped the GOD of ABRRAHAM. Since there was only ONE GOD OF ABRAHAM, what would you suspect they might be?
Go and educate yourself. I mean, it’s all there. Just pick up the Book and READ IT!
I will not discuss Jesus with you. You have no background in Hebrew or Hebrew tradition, and that leaves you disarmed from the git go. My advice is, if you truly desire knowledge, spend time seeking it in libraries and in bookstores or even in historical tomes online before you keep making a fool of yourself. A forum like this isn’t the place. If you have a curious mind, seek that knowledge on your own.
Yeah, me too. After playing this silly game all day, I am about ready for a movie or something. See ya later...
“That worshipped the GOD of ABRRAHAM.”
That was not the case with Rebekkah and Rachel. They were idol worshippers and in fact when Jacob brought Rachel back to Canaan after his 21 years with her family, she stole the household idols and hid them from her father.
“The blood of the mother determines WHO gets the Covenant.”
You have already shown that this is not true with Rahab and Ruth. In both of those women and the two handmaids of Leah and Rachel, non Jews had children that were beneficiaries of the covenant with Abraham.
Dude, you’re arguing the Jewish religion and history of Israel with a Jew. Give up all ready!
13) NEW - Even Paul invoked his rights as a Roman citizen in Acts 22:25 to avoid a beating, so why are you defending Islam by saying we should not use our rights as citizens to avoid future harm?
He invoked his rights as a Roman citizen when Roman authorities were abusing the law. He expected the Roman authorities to protect him just as we have the right to call upon our government to protect us.
However, if we think we are protecting ourselves by denying 1st Amendment rights to citizens then at another time our 1st Amendment right can be denied.
18) NEW - 2 Corinthians 6:5 Paul speaks of “watchings”. He was watching for people coming to hurt him. His prayers were not enough?
I don’t know where you get “He was watching for people coming to hurt him” from this verse. Paul voluntarily submitted to synagogue beatings for the opportunity to witness in the synagogues. Had he refused the punishment, which was his right, he would have forfeited the right to enter synagogues and speak. From his autobiographical references in Corinthians he was vulnerable many times to the elements, shipwrecks and hostile people. Anyone would lose sleep over that.
“12) NEW - When a robber/rapist shows up to your house, do you pray and then evangelize, or do you call 911? The rapist/robber is in America, and it is called Islam.”
That’s an absurd question. Of course you avail yourself of the protection of the government and if it can be proven that there is a conspiracy to break the law,there are remedies. However, a whole community is not penalized for the actions of a few.
“19) NEW - Have you read Gary Demar’s “Myths Lies & Half-Truths”
I have as much faith in the thinking of Gary DeMar as I do in Hal Lindsey or Tim LeHaye.
I’ll stand by my original statement:
“The only grassroots that can accomplish this is grounded in (2 Cor. 10:3-5)”For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ” and the Great Commission, “go and make disciples...!”
“Dude, you’re arguing the Jewish religion and history of Israel with a Jew. Give up all ready!”
Whoever it is needs to spend more time studying the scriptures rather than opinions.
In my area, they just had a funeral for a matriarch of 2500. She was the HEAD of her family.
It is the height of ego to think that YOU know more than a Jew about Judaism.
Whoever it is needs to spend more time studying the scriptures rather than opinions.
That would be a Torah. Even I, a goy, know that.
Should we ping the buggman?
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