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Getting Control of Congress, Permanently
American Thinker ^ | January 07, 2010 | John Armor

Posted on 01/07/2010 9:27:47 AM PST by neverdem

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To: Congressman Billybob

Way to go John, American Thinker is a big outfit to get published!!!!!


21 posted on 01/07/2010 1:29:37 PM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: sig226

Bump


22 posted on 01/07/2010 1:31:53 PM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Carry_Okie
I just don't buy that. Can you say that about Tom Coburn or James Inhofe?

They're the exception not the rule. With incumbents getting reelected at rates of ninety percent or better, do you really want more of the Bobby Byrd and John Murtha types. Twelve years in each house is plenty.

As opposed to the need for relying upon more experienced staffers we don't elect to explain how things work?

Let them stick to the Constitution. The less laws they make the better. They can start repealing stupid laws.

This is just not true. With term limits, it takes LESS money to buy a candidate, run him, and offer him a cushy job on the back side up front. It also increases the likelihood for a chain of complete unknowns running for office with little identifiable record by which to qualify their integrity under pressure.

That assumes they're all bought, and that they have no record as local and state politicians.

"As for shifting power to the legislative staff and the bureaucracy, that was needed before the computer when all these laws, regulations and rules were on paper. With computers and the internet, much of the staff and bureaucracy could be eliminated."

Please explain the basis for this claim.

Information technology greatly reduces the need for staff devoted to researching printed paper copies of anything, IMHO.

23 posted on 01/07/2010 1:54:12 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: CPT Clay; dalereed
Way to go John, American Thinker is a big outfit to get published!!!!!

IIRC, dalereed had unkind words for American Thinker. I forget the thread, but the admin mod removed them.

24 posted on 01/07/2010 1:58:53 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Sorry, but with the help of Government schools and the Media, the American people are too stupid. They don't know how to primary, don't care to learn the facts (hence Republicans believed McCain was anti-Amnesty 2 years ago), and punish bad Republicans by electing worse Democrats.
We have teh government we deserve.
25 posted on 01/07/2010 2:07:46 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: neverdem
That assumes they're all bought, and that they have no record as local and state politicians.

Actually, from what I've seen, California politicians are now more "bought" than ever, in part because they need a job after their terms. More importantly, very few have the faintest idea what they are doing. Yes, we got rid of Willie Brown, but we termed out the likes of McClintock, Richardson, Haynes, and Kopp (a Dem, but an honest man). In only one of those cases did the pol move up and he would have done so anyway.

Term limits have not worked in California; they made things worse. Willie Brown may have been a crook, but at least he was competent. This crew is not only crooked, but downright dangerous.

26 posted on 01/07/2010 3:09:33 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Democrats were the Slave Party then; they are the Slave Party now.)
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To: okie01

Some kind of weird liberal logic going on there - segregating people by their skin color, so that they can have someone of their own race represent them.

In a true capitalist society, wouldn’t it be better to gerrymander people based on their economic status, then make it a law so that only people that live in the district are allowed to donate money to their candidate? This would keep outsiders from buying the election, so they would be more likely to have someone that truly represents them.


27 posted on 01/07/2010 4:22:24 PM PST by smokingfrog (Don't mess with the mocking bird! - http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: Carry_Okie

There’s reason for you receiving no response?


28 posted on 01/08/2010 3:23:00 PM PST by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

proud of you. really. thanks for all you do for us.


29 posted on 01/08/2010 6:05:10 PM PST by bitt (You canÂ’t make a weak man strong by making a strong man weak (Abraham Lincoln))
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To: Congressman Billybob; neverdem

Do any states have BBAs currently in place?

How are they working? I live in IL and they gimmick it up to “balance” the budget breaking the laws legally.

What’s the experience base in the other 50 American laboratories called states?

How about the states with line item vetoes (43 per the article)? Are they in good shape? IL has the line item veto and it’s made little difference.

How does the single-subject requirement work in the 41 states that have it? IL judges use it to overturn legislation, some of it good. It locks out the minority party from attaching bills that would change things in IL for the better.

I do appreciate the ideas and FR seems to have an overabundance of ideas for fixing America.

But, to me our best move is to walk the people, the executives, the legislatures and the judges back to our existing Constitution as written.

I don’t see anything past the 15th Amendment that improved on the original.


30 posted on 01/09/2010 6:04:26 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
As the article says, all fifty states have some form of the BBA, though some are more effective in how they are written, and enforced.

John / Billybob

31 posted on 01/09/2010 6:35:43 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.TheseAretheTimes.us)
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To: Congressman Billybob
some are more effective

What causes one BBA to be more effective in one state than in another?

Doesn't it net out to who the voters elect, not the Constitutional provisions? Isn't the real problem thieves electing theives?

I don't think tinkering with the Constitution will make a difference if voters continue to elect and accept socialists as their masters.

32 posted on 01/09/2010 6:24:26 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Congressman Billybob; PugetSoundSoldier
all fifty states have some form of the BBA, though some are more effective in how they are written, and enforced.

So the wild card, per normal, are the people themselves. If they tolerate thieves and liars they get theft and lies.

The solution is shrink government down. PSS has a great solution that even a child can grasp and that is politically feasible. The conservative movement needs to embrace it and then you'll have majorities forever.

33 posted on 01/16/2010 3:32:29 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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