Posted on 01/07/2010 6:13:25 AM PST by rabscuttle385
Sen. Lindsey Graham is ready to be the 60th Senate vote to get the climate change and energy bill passed, he told a Midlands audience Tuesday at Harbison State Forest.
“Since they’ve got no Republicans but me, business is open,” Graham said.
Graham has been criticized by his own party for pursuing bipartisan resolutions on such issues as illegal immigration and possible filibusters of judicial nominees. And he believes that the cap-and-trade bills being debated this year are another occasion to do so, he told the audience at a forestry conference hosted by the S.C. Wildlife Federation.
He said he has worked with Democrats, including Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., to craft a bill he can support.
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One can be sure though that Murkowski would not be for Palin for President and would just as soon not have Palin’s contributions.
That's who.
That has to be the most ridiculous post EVER. They way you see it, she basically could get away with ANYTHING. She could murder someone on national TV and you would find some way to excuse her behavior. She might not know she is pro-abortion????? What???? She is giving her a pass because of how mean she was to her father???? WHAT??????
Lindsey Graham is determined to commit suicide.
So be it.
But, he’ll merely officially switch to the Dem Party. He’ll have to move to Chicago though !
LOL.
To the South Carolina Republicans. Graham is a light loafer liberal and you all are worthless traitors for lacking the guts to primary him. You are as bad as Arizona useful idiots for McCain. Don’t ever say a bad thing about New York conservatives and Republicans who are least fighting despite massively outnumbered.
It seems to me that the list of idiot states is so long that it will eventually reach 50, even the 57 that the Great One claimed to have visited.
Well, I was just saying that not very many people know whether any senator supports abortion or not. People in NE think Nelson opposes abortion, and then he supports the abortion-laden health “reform”. I would imagine that most in AK have no idea where Murkowski stands on much of anything.
Uber RINO Lindsey PingYou may not realize how many people in SC support and even admire Graham. It’s a big secret why.
Extremely good point....that Nelson disappointed me that is for sure.
Well good luck with that. If what you say is true then why are 90% of the candidates the GOP supports RINOs?
The problem is in the "leadership" and not among the Republican people, the majority of whom are conservatives.
Hope that helps clear things up for you.
My 90% RINO number was based on Federal elected offices.
As for RNC leadership, 100% of them are RINOs. To wit: They control who they support through donations. We’ve had true conservatives run for gov. in NJ in the past 15 years, but neither the state or national GOP supported them via ads or money. They did not win.
Which takes me back to a vatiation of my original question: Why would Demrat Party controlled RINOs step aside for conservatives?
That being said, the problem we, as Republicans have, is that we elect conservative representatives, and they go to DC, get swept up in power and DC political circles, and leave behind their principles.
The significant difference between elected Republicans, and 99% of elected Democrats is that they DO have principles (even if they abandoned them), and that they DO have consciences (even if they have ignored them), so that when the majority of their consituents tell them to BE a conservative, and when they see the power and numbers in the Tea Party movement, many of them will respond.
That's what the goal of conservative Republicans is, dools. Reforming our own party from within.
And whether or not you, as an anti-Republican, believe it will happen really doesn't matter. In fact, it already is.
They also need to be shown that the Medieval Warm Period (AD 800–1300) was conveniently left out of the "hockey stick diagram, since it inconveniently showed that temperatures were as high as they are now and there was no industry and not enough people to cause it.
Yo ohioWfan, I do appreciate your point of view. But, even more, I appreciate your willingness to discuss without resort to name calling or just shutting off what you may not want to hear.
To set the record straight I’m not, in principle, anti- Republcan. I am anti-RINO Republicans and they control the NRC. Certainly you would agree on the point that RINOs control the NRC.
In my best of all worlds I would love it if the NRC/GOP were to change course with conservative leadership. That, afterall, is what got Reagan, and every Pubbie Pres. after him, elected. The Bushes turned out to be tepid conservatives at best, even though their claim to be that got the conservative vote.
IMHO people like myself, a grass roots Tea Partier, have succeeded in nudging that along. Cases in point: NY Dist. 23 and the NRC Chair’s rant to conservatives to stop complaining or fire me. Conservatives do not have the clout to do that and Steele knows it.
Again, IMHO the GOP has been coopted by the demrats. The RINOs leading the GOP owe their allegiance to the demrats. They will lose the crumbs the dems deign to throw their way if they do not follow demrat marching orders.
It is heartening that Dodd and two three other Congressional dems have announced retirement or their desire to not run again. If there is more of this, perhaps some number of RINOs will desert the demrat ship. This could lead to conservative control of the GOP. I view this as a long shot at this time.
As to your comment about conservatives going to Washington and losing their principles. That is a spcious argument. Conservatives, by definition, are principled. Principled people do not lose their principles for political expediancy.
Finally, in the absense of a second opposition party to the demrats a vacuum has formed. Just as the world turns on its axis, some opposition entity will coalesce to fill that vacuum. Whether that is a reinvented GOP or some other entity is unknown. That the void will be filled is inevitable.
I'll start with clarifying that I am anti-RINO too - have been for decades (you should be an Ohio conservative Republican, dools. It's pretty much awful. Think "Taft" Think "Voinovich" Think "DeWine"). The difference between me (a conservative Republican) and those who are not Republicans is that I don't sweep the entire party with the broad brush of RINO. If all are RINOS then the meaning of the word is nullified. My own Congressman, Jim Jordan, is a stellar conservative who has remained untainted by being in DC - though he hasn't been there that long yet. He's really solid. He, and others like DeMint, are completely supportive of the Tea Party movement and he even spoke at several in Ohio on April 15.
I don't think you can state unequivocally that every conservative is so principled that they can't be moved. Ideally that is so, but there are too many examples of people who really WERE conservatives until they got swept up in the Washington social/political/financial set of perks and lost what they had. In the "best of all worlds" all conservatives are immutable in their principles, but it just ain't so in real life. We send conservatives and they wash out as 'moderates/ liberals." It's the biggest frustration of all of us conservative Republicans out here.
One comment about the Bushes......especially George W. He campaigned as "the education candidate." That's not a traditional position for a conservative, is it? If people were fooled into thinking he was hard core, they weren't paying attention. He campaigned on cutting taxes, and did it. He campaigned on supporting the troops, and he did it in spades. He campaigned as a pro-life candidate, and is being honored by pro-life groups for his unwavering and vocal support of the sanctity of life. He selected a strong set of conservatives for the judiciary, and has been honored for that.
Bottom line, he did what he said he was going to do. Education, tax cuts, pro-life, pro-military. No deceit involved.
I just heard on Rush that 60 some percent of Americans think of John McCain as the "head" of the Republican party. This, IMO, is tragic. I don't think it's true, though he may think he is, but if it is true, and actual Republicans think it's true, then I will concede your point about being coopted.
What I actually believe is that our party is currently leaderless, and that's a good thing, because if the Tea Party movement, which is made up of a whole lot of Republicans in the mix, is as effective as I think it is, then the whole party will begin a significant shift to the right.
And that will save the country.
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