Posted on 01/07/2010 5:49:05 AM PST by Sophia777
http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/01/secret-service-targeting-birthers
Over the past year, Secret Service agents charged with protecting President Obama seem to have taken a keen interest in the Birther movement, the committed group of anti-Obama activists around the country who claim the president was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, and is thus ineligible to serve. The idea has been widely and repeatedly debunked (see FactCheck.org's thorough takedown here), but that hasn't stopped Birthers from doggedly making their case in American courtrooms, to US attorneys, and even to a rural county grand jury, in the hopes that a judge will rule in their favor and Obama might eventually be removed from office. Those efforts have failed spectacularly, but they seem to have succeeded in placing the Birthers on the radar of the Secret Service.
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In Jesus' name, AMEN!
If the story has no merit, why has Obama spent nearly $2MM defening himself against such “smear tactics”.
See post #58
I was commenting on the report that the Brits had to tip BO off tho the terrorist attack on NY.
Fact Check is from the Annenberg Foundation, and coincidentally, Soetero was on the board of The Annenberg Challenge in Chicago with Bill Ayers.
Direct link, probably not, but if the NY Yankee foundation tried to clear Derek Jeter of some wrondoing, would you be slightly suspicious? I am.
You won’t believe this, but then again you probley will. PING
Because he is a fraud and a liar who most likely has no Constitutional validity to hold office.
But don't let those beliefs get in his way, as he has transformed the Secret Service into his own version of the Gestapo.
“If the focus is on his ineligibility and it is proved he is the usurper many of us believe him to be, then he would be removed from office along with his abuse of federal power.”
This is the problem with the whole birther movement. Only a blind as a bat apostate could possibly beleive this would ever happen.
In fact, the exact opposite would happen, Obama would be the recipient of a deluge of sympathy and the birthers would be portrayed as mean spirited, ignorant boobs.
If you don't pay your credit card bill for 8 years there is a statue-of-limitations on the account. But in this case you cant even prove Obama made the charges to the credit card(he isnt american) , you are demanding he prove he didn't make the charges(that he is american to your satisfaction) , and the statue of limitations has expired also(he is president a year).
Any other analogies?
Yes I was loged in . It appears my post have now come up.
I’ve got a sat dish. If there is bad weather between my dish and the sat, I can’t send or recieve. I get a message from my comp saying there is no signal. Last night I was recieving messages saying I didn’t have a signal. the weather doesn’t discriminate between incoming and outgoing signals.
The focus of your reply in post #76 adds credibility to the accusation in post #74.
I already gave you the OJ one. There is no statue of limitations on MURDER.
Barry the Usurper committed FRAUD in 2008. What is the statute of limitations on that? Hmmmmmmm?????
junkman_106 ~ Funny, I’ve been getting “can’t locate the server” pop-ups as well. Especially when I’m on FR. Wonder what’s up?
DJ MacWoW ~ No other poster has been flagged in such a manner. And they’d say so if they had. They’d be yelling.
*shrug* I've been having odd things happen when I'm on FR. I just figured it was Darks...
I wouldn’t worry. Secret Service can do nothing to birthers.
I suggest that the use of Secret Service to “check up” on law abiding first amendment citizens demonstrates an overwhlming need for the State of Hawaii to release Obie’s long form certificate in the public interest. The taxpayers money being spent on this justifies the need to know overcoming Obie’s privacy interests. Why are taxpayers paying because of Obie’s hidden records?
While they are at it why isn’t the SS investigating and prosecuting those who have destroyed our financial system and economy through fraud and corruption? Does their protecting national leaders include covering up his crimes and intimidating those who try and get the truth? Have they investigated the President’s citizenship and eligibility?
This is their mission statement:
MISSION STATEMENT
The mission of the United States Secret Service is to safeguard the nation’s financial infrastructure and payment systems to preserve the integrity of the economy, and to protect national leaders, visiting heads of state and government, designated sites and National Special Security Events.
Yeah that’s odd. I do get “can’t connect to server” screens on FR sometimes. More now since Obeyme’s election.
On so many levels.
OTOH, Suppose we take him at his word and assume there is something "personally embarrassing" on his BC?
I believe/know a very few things:
The CoLB that his campaign released is a forgery.
Someone risked jail time to forge this document.
It takes all of half an hour on the 'net, and about $25-$40 to have a legitimate certified copy of your own BC delivered within a week.
Therefore, I conclude that there must be some compelling reason to falsify his BC.
The compelling reason that comes to mind is that the real document would kick him out of the running for being the most powerful man on earth.
From this I conclude that his true documentation shows one or more of the following truths:
• He was not born in the United States, and is therefore constitutionally unqualified for the job. This is a show stopper. There is no way to "fix" this or inoculate himself against this. It is the premier presidency killer issue.
Therefore, I regard this as the most probable explanation for the deceit.
All the other possible reasons are much lower grade:
• His BC shows that he's a bastard. Although this might be personally embarrassing, nobody cares, a goodly fraction of the electorate is in the same boat, or closely related to someone who is.
• His birth name isn't Barak Hussein Obama. So what? We already know his his name changed when he was adopted in Indonesia. People can and do change their names, it isn't a crime, or even particularly shady.
The only question it really raises is why did he chose a muslim name? That's rather easy to explain away - he took his genetic father's name. Who can argue with that? Especially when muslim names had some popularity among blacks who didn't know just how deeply involved muslims were in the slave trade.
• His real birth certificate lists his race as something other than "African". This would be more of a problem. His whole campaign was founded on his being "the first black president". Still not lethal to the presidency, but it would be awkward to 'splain away.
• There is something else embarrassing on his official BC.
Like what?
There could be nothing conceivably embarrassing about:
His time of birth
His birthday
His city of birth
His county of birth
His island of birth
His religion (Religion is not even listed!)
His mother's race
The date it was filed
A few things could be a slightly embarrassing:
The serial number? Maybe? Suppose it's really 151-1961-000666?
His father's name wasn't listed. Not terribly unlikely if he and Stanley Ann split up before he was born. No one cares.
His mother's maiden name. Suppose she really did use her Anna Toot drinkin' ID to get married? Would that really suffice as a reason for someone to risk jail time by falsifying his documents? More to the point, would it disqualify Barak? I don't think so. If anything it could be played for the sympathy vote, young naïve Stanley Ann trying to do her best in covering up the mistakes of her youth. Mother's maiden name listed as Anna Toot? Yawn.
That leaves his birth name. Was it really the noble and exotic Barak Hussein Obama II?
Or was it Mortimer Snerdly Toot, hmmmm?
One other possibility, but it's so odd I hesitate to mention it:
Approximately 1% of live births are hermaphroditic to a noticeable degree. Perhaps his birth certificate lists him as a girl or a hermaphrodite (do they do that???). If nothing else, that would explain his pitching, and if Larry Sinclair is to be believed, his catching style...
Oh Nully! What a loaded statement. I ain't sayin' nuthin'.
I just figured it was Darks... That's the plausible explanation. :-)
He is legally president now. I do remember some Birth-certificaters posting a year ago all Obama’s signed laws would be invalid because they didnt personally approve his birth certificate(yet Ann Coulter says she thinks it is valid.) . But if all his laws are really invalid, why should we bother to call congress to oppose any invalid laws that Obama will sign? Can we default on the T bills the treasury sold?
There is also no statute of limitations on TREASON.
Yesterday, sickoflibs was defending Margaret Sanger. You are banging your head against a lib wall talking to them.
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