Posted on 01/06/2010 11:22:07 AM PST by GreatOne
You raise a great point about The Crime Dog and ‘roids. Didn’t think of that. And I totally agree on your Lee Smith sentiment.
Santo was one of the best third basemen to ever play the game. Defensively, I think Brooks Robinson and Pie Traynor were the only ones who were better and he clobbers them both on offensive statistics, even though most of his career was in a pitcher's era.
Ditto for Bert Blyleven-- a very good pitcher, but not up to the Hall of Fame standards compared to the others which you mention. Still, in Bert's case, I think longevity does count for something and he'll get in just as Tommy John earned his way in for the same reason.
The Hall of Very Good ;-)
“did 0bama get voted in?”
2017
HOF = “Most effeminate throw to home plate in baseball history”
Kanye West can induct him!
Jeff Kent might also argue.
Only if he's high on crack. While their career averages in most offensive categories were similar, Alomar scored more runs, had more stolen bases, and was higher with BA/OBP/OPS
Their fielding was essentially a wash, with Sandberg earning 9 Gold Gloves and Alomar earning 10 Gold Gloves.
Dats de ticket!
While Kent had superior power numbers, Alomar was better in runs scored, getting on base, stolen bases, and very similar runs produced per year. However, when you add fielding prowess in, Kent gets blown away.
Agree with you completely on Ron Santo. Hopefully the Veteran’s Committee will get off their butts and get him in while he’s still alive. And they should get Gil Hodges in, too, while they’re at it.
“Ryne Sandberg may quibble with your opinion.”
Ryne Sandberg was not as good offensively or defensively as Roberto Alomar.
I’m not sure Alomar wasn’t the best defensively at 2nd base.
Did Mark McGuire make it?
If Dawson deserves this, then they ought to kick the door wide open and let every "power" hitter with 10 yrs experience in.... Shameful.
McGwire received 23.7% of the votes.
8 Gold Gloves a mediocre fielder?? I saw him often from the right field stands in Wrigley...he was awesome.
He once hit a line drive that couldn’t have been more than 10 feet off the ground that hit the center field wall...he had excellent power!!
Too many people remember how bad he looked when his knees gave out.
Sandberg had 10 Gold Gloves and an MVP award in addition to a .285 lifetime BA and .795 career OPS. He also played in the era prior to PED, so I can at least know that he was clean. I can’t say the same about Alomar.
you dont know anything about bert blyleven. you should go pitch and get 170 strikeouts and 14 wins for twenty years. then you can start talking your big talk.i hope so much that he gets in because he deserves it and i want to stuff it down your mouth.and yes he is A GREAT PITCHER. WAY BETTER THAN A LOT OF OTHER PITCHERS.AND for the record I love that tony perez got in the hall in 2000. Way to go!!!!I LOVE WHEN PLAYERS GET IN THE HALL OF FAME.I think all the diversity in the hall of fame makes it a lot more interesting!!!!!!!! im a huge Cubs fan and HIP HIP HOORAY FOR THE HAWK!!!!!Finally he is where he belongs.
Dawson? Is this a joke? No excuse to keep out Mattingly and about 50 others now.
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