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To: Spunky

Just a question..suppose MalcomX is the papa..would that not end the question of the birth certificate problem and his status as natural born citizen?


48 posted on 01/04/2010 8:19:25 PM PST by celtic gal (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: celtic gal
"Just a question..suppose MalcomX is the papa..would that not end the question of the birth certificate problem and his status as natural born citizen?"

Yes it could if he was born in the US. But someone way back on the long thread speculated that maybe he was born in Canada. Remember this was in the 60's and an unwed mother was frowned upon and even more so if she were pregnant with a black baby. It was said that they were more tolerant of such things in Canada so she was sent there to an unwed mothers home.

58 posted on 01/04/2010 8:33:46 PM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: celtic gal

Lol...don’t spoil their fun.


102 posted on 01/04/2010 10:04:58 PM PST by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: celtic gal

Only that his natural father was an American. However, he was adopted by an Indonesian which negated his American citizenship (Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship apparently). Now, he didn’t get to choose this situation, but he, according to several postings, had to have an Indonesian passport in order to travel with his friends when he was in college and presumably an adult. Also, did he claim foreign status for financial aid? His expensive higher education had to be funded somehow, and his grandmother only worked in a bank, she didn’t own it.

Supposedly, changes in one’s citizenship status are recorded on one’s original or vault birth certificate, so whomever his father is and whatever his status was on the day he was born, it’s really about his present status of citizenship that concerns us.


112 posted on 01/04/2010 10:14:24 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: celtic gal

Oh please, Malcom X isn’t his father and yes, it would end the eligibility issue, although it would prove he is a fraud and a liar.


125 posted on 01/04/2010 11:14:32 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: celtic gal

Sure. It would also prove that Obama is a serial liar.

Your turn!


126 posted on 01/04/2010 11:34:40 PM PST by Carling (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.)
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To: celtic gal

Yes, that would make him clearly a natural born American.

Also a damn liar, but that’s not exactly news.


153 posted on 01/05/2010 8:59:32 AM PST by Fresh Wind ("...a whip of political correctness strangles their voice"-Vaclav Klaus on GW skeptics)
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To: celtic gal

It still leaves the adoption issue, and the use of another’s name is illegal so there is a lot of fodder still out there.

If he was adopted, his name is Soetoro. If his daddy is not Obama, his name is not Obama. If daddy and mommy were not married, he ought to have Dunham as a last name unless there are other documents that change that.

All that would still put the office in jeopardy.


154 posted on 01/05/2010 9:16:32 AM PST by esquirette (If we do not know our own worldview, we will accept theirs.)
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