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MI5 told US about Detroit bomber's terror links a year ago
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/6933707/MI5-told-US-about-Detroit-bombers-terror-links-a-year-ago.html ^

Posted on 01/04/2010 3:05:19 PM PST by Maggie Maggie Maggie

Britain told American intelligence agents more than a year ago that the Detroit bomber had links to extremists, Downing Street has announced.

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was named in a file of people based in Britain who had made contact with radical Muslim preachers. The file was sent to the US authorities in 2008.

The disclosure will embarrass President Barack Obama, who is already under pressure after failures by US intelligence to identify the bomber.

It will also add to concern over the state of the “special relationship” between Downing Street and the White House following last year’s dispute over the early release of the Lockerbie bomber.

It is extremely unusual for the Prime Minister’s office to comment on intelligence matters. The move could be seen as an attempt to rebuff criticism from senior American figures who claimed that Britain had nurtured Islamic extremism.

At first it was thought that MI5 gathered only limited information on Abdulmutallab and had therefore not alerted the US.

However, in an official briefing, the Prime Minister’s spokesman said that British intelligence was shared with the Americans.

He said: “Clearly there was security information about this individual’s activities and that was information that was shared with the US authorities. That is the key point.”

The spokesman added: “We are pretty certain that he was radicalised outside the UK. He [Abdulmutallab] left the UK in October 2008.

“But it is also clear that while he was here he was attempting to make contact with people and that is the intelligence we were able to secure from the intelligence services.”

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abdulmutallab; bho44; flight253; mi5; obamaknew; obamaknewbeforehand; obamasecurity; security; theyknew; theyknewbeforehand
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To: Maggie Maggie Maggie

Early reports stated the US knew about him TWO YEARS ago. Whether is was from MI5 or other sources, it didn’t say.

Early reports also stated dad went to the US embassy back in JUNE which contradicts the “few weeks ago” timeline that has been run through the msm.

Here’s the African and UK reports:

http://allafrica.com/stories/200912260001.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2415319/posts

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6968539.ece


21 posted on 01/04/2010 7:49:54 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Cicero

It’s not nice to screw with the CIA.

Obama had better learn that.


22 posted on 01/04/2010 7:51:43 PM PST by Palladin (Obama as President? "Totally unacceptable.")
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To: hennie pennie
Do they have the power to do anything other than mildly embarrass him?

Oh, I think the intelligence community is providing us with a steady stream of embarassment for Comrade Obamavich. Various leaks about his aides' past, his past associations with various groups, and other screw ups. They have to walk a fine line. Can't look too angry. Former defense Dept. and intelligence agency personnel are also giving interviews and pointing out their deficiencies.

Definately worth getting some popcorn out to enjoy the show :)

23 posted on 01/04/2010 7:52:15 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
Obamavitch?????

Roflol!!

So some of the exposes we've heard about on different radio and televsion shows were prolly less the research of their staffs, and MORE THE LEAKS OF THE INTEL GUYS??

Now, that's funny!!

And reassuring.

24 posted on 01/04/2010 7:59:23 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Not all. Just a few juicy tidbits... if you know what I mean....


25 posted on 01/04/2010 8:02:37 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
Oh.

Okay.

WOW.

Pass the popcorn, lol!!

26 posted on 01/04/2010 8:07:38 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Maggie Maggie Maggie

All I can think about is how the left to this day still crucifies Bush for getting a broad intel memo, I believe in Aug before 9/11 that planes may be targeted. That’s mild compared to this!!!


27 posted on 01/04/2010 8:09:26 PM PST by RatsDawg
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To: Maggie Maggie Maggie
a file of people based in Britain who had made contact with radical Muslim preachers.

I wonder if there is a similar list for Chicago or DC?

28 posted on 01/04/2010 8:10:01 PM PST by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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To: Atom Smasher

Never Ignored! Just calculated to protect their Muslim Sponsors!! and to screw America!!


29 posted on 01/04/2010 8:18:51 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: ColdOne

A free lawyer and a plea bargain, while tanned rested reinforcements are shipped to Yemen the new wild west of the mideast.


30 posted on 01/04/2010 8:29:24 PM PST by omega4179 (Marco2010)
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To: Nachum

Pardon my objectivity, but the CIA hasn’t divulgved anything about the disgusting and revoltingly Traitorous Actions of Obama Hussein to date, but rather RUSH and BECK have stuck their Necks out to Save America! Hannity has been a total Wimp, and the Republican arty has aided and abbetted the Treasonous Enemy! FIRE STEELE NOW!! Steele failed at getting elected Governor of Maryland, so why is he as a Failure, NOW the Chairman of the RNC? Is it because some bleeding Hearts Moderates(RATS) think he is the Messiah? The Messiah is DICK CHENEY who LOVES AMERICA!! above Himself or his Family! and Hate America’s Enemies!!


31 posted on 01/04/2010 8:34:07 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: Maggie Maggie Maggie

Nothing will ever embarrass Obama. He lacks shame.


32 posted on 01/04/2010 8:37:14 PM PST by Moose Burger
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To: Moose Burger

I agree with you!

I don’t think Obama cares about anything except trying to impress someone with all his lectures.


33 posted on 01/04/2010 8:44:55 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Maggie Maggie Maggie; Cicero; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yes. It appears to be a very drippy situation. In need of a real plumber. But alas my friends. I fear, the right team of master plumbers will not be found any time soon. Zero has three more years to go.
My often analogy of being up shit creek without a paddle still applies. And the waterfall with the huge ragged rocks below the falls is in sight, just beyond the huge sets of rapids leading to the falls.
34 posted on 01/04/2010 10:02:47 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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He'll fix everything.

Don't worry about a thing!!!


35 posted on 01/04/2010 10:03:59 PM PST by NoRedTape
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To: hennie pennie

British archives. Kenya was a British colony in 1961.


36 posted on 01/04/2010 10:18:21 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Tunehead54

4 am bttt! ‘-)


37 posted on 01/04/2010 10:29:17 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: All; Maggie Maggie Maggie; Cicero

This might interest you:

Dr. Jack Wheeler is editor of ToThePointNews “an online geopolitical intelligence service”. He has had two parallel careers: one in the field of adventure and exploration as the owner of Jack Wheeler Expeditions; the other in the field of political and economic freedom as president of the Freedom Research Foundation. Wheeler’s articles are also published by WebNetDaily.

Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler Thursday, 30 April 2009

Paris, France. It is very cool to be a French intel guy.
A spectacular meal at a Parisian bistro with $90 entrées and a $200 bottle of Bordeaux? No problem. I’d known this fellow since he got me out of a jam in Sudan years ago. His James Bond days are over, but still, riding a desk for the DGSE – Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure (General Directorate for External Security), France’s military intel agency – in Paris has its decided benefits. One of them is not being infected with Obamamania. “My agency considers him a joke,” he confides. “Every day there is some fresh lunacy that we cannot believe.

Mr. Bush would often make us angry. But at this man we just laugh.” “In truth, it also makes us sad,” he continued. “French resentment towards America is strong, so being able to laugh at your country feels good. But it is such a sad and strange thing to see America – America The Great! – do something so crazy as to elect this ridiculous man.” “There are many people in America who think he isn’t a legitimate president as he wasn’t born in the US and isn’t a natural citizen. What do you think?” I asked.

He shrugged. “I wouldn’t know. I’ve never had reason to make an inquiry.” “There are a lot of people convinced he is a traitor who hates America and is actively determined to destroy it. Any opinion on that?” He didn’t shrug at this. After a long slow sip of wine, he mused, “I would not go that far. Many of his actions, however, are very puzzling because they are so counter-productive regarding America’s best interests. There seems to be a consistent pattern in that direction.”

“What does Sarkozy think of him?” “Nothing but contempt.” After a pause he asked, “And Langley?” “Well, if you thought the war they waged against Bush was intense, it was nothing compared to how they’re going to screw Obama. He has tried to gut them with the ‘torture memo’ release and slashing their budgets. The morale is depressed, sullen, and enraged. You know what a left-wing outfit Langley is.

They thought he was their boy and they feel betrayed. All kinds of damaging stuff on him will be appearing via their media friends.” He nodded. “And in Tel Aviv City?” He was referring to the huge underground city complex of Langley’s underneath the US Embassy in the Israeli capital. “That’s an interesting question. You know how vast and deep the relationship is there.

Langley is making every effort to overcome the total and massive distrust their Israeli colleagues have for Obama, whom they know is selling them down the Jordan River. So far though this effort is in words. The Israelis are waiting to see what Langley does.” He said nothing. I smiled. “You guys wouldn’t be Langley’s cutout for thwarting BO regarding Israel, would you? I’d never suspect that…” He continued to say nothing, gave me only a slight smile in return, and poured me another glass of wine.

“The Bordeaux is good, yes?” I nodded. “You know, the French media worships this man the same as yours in the US. All of this ‘100 days’ talk, it is impossibly stupid. Most anyone in the French elite, the business leaders, Sarko’s people, they all know this.

They all think this is some crazy joke of the Americans. But it is a very, very dangerous joke. For 100 days your president has been a laughingstock among the tout le monde of Paris. No one may be laughing 100 days or 10 months from now.”

He leaned forward. “The world can go – how do you say – sideways with this man very quickly. No one he has working for him knows what they are doing – possibly excepting Mrs. Clinton – and he certainly does not. All of us in our little community are worried – us, our friends in Berlin, London, Tel Aviv, and Langley too as you say. It is not like the barbarians at the gates. It is every barbarian horde in the world being told there are no gates. The Somalis, Chavez, Iran, Putin, Beijing, the ‘Norks” as you call them, the list is long and it is growing.

We are not sure what to do.” It took me a moment to respond. “The best thing that has happened now is Obama making Langley his enemy. They will be cooperating with you more, be more a part of your worried community. Working together, you can undermine his efforts more effectively, block and maybe even repair the damage.”

It was my turn to lean forward. “Then again, all together you could be more pro-active. The man is a mystery. Nobody can make public his actual birth certificate, or even the particular hospital he was born in, or his college grades, or how he got into Harvard, or how he made editor of the Harvard Law Review and never wrote a single article for it. It goes on and on. He really is a Zero. I think all of you guys should find all of this out and make it known.” I added, “The quicker the better, before the laughing stops and the real dangers begin.”

“What is that phrase you use?” he asked. “Something to consider?” I laughed. “Yes, there is much to consider – and much that you can do. I mean, really, if the Soviet Union could be dismantled, so can this presidency.”

It was a beautiful April afternoon in Paris. He walked me back to my hotel. It could be that the times we live in may get even more interesting.


38 posted on 01/04/2010 10:38:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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To: Candor7; Liz; onyx; STARWISE; maggief; Bahbah

That’ll teach BO to snub the queen.....They’re telling on him! Poor pathetic AMATEUR!


39 posted on 01/05/2010 2:26:18 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama; Candor7; Liz; onyx; STARWISE; maggief; Bahbah; stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; ...
M15 is squealing on Obama---they are saying they told US about Detroit bomber's terror links a year ago......

At this point, we should no longer buy O's act that he did not know.

We'd best take notes on O's handling of these activities---b/c his reponse mirrors terrorists responses.

Keep in mind, Americans look at the undie bomber with fear and tripidation, and demand justice.

Ohaha, Holder, Incompetano, and that bunch, look at the bomber with kindness and understanding.......b/c he was going to "get" those evil Americans.

40 posted on 01/05/2010 5:59:31 AM PST by Liz
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