Extremists Online Discussed Blowing Up Planes Weeks Before Flight 253 Attempt (Biological Agents)

ABC News ^ | Jan 4, 2010 | SIMON MCGREGOR-WOOD

[fightinJAG]

Extremist Internet forums discussed blowing up planes three weeks before the Detroit attempt -- and have also discussed ways of using deadly biological agents onboard planes.

A private Israeli intelligence company told ABC News Monday there was a surge of online discussions in extremist Islamic forums about blowing up planes three weeks before Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab's attempt to bring down Northwest Flight 253. The discussions recommended using "improvised detonation chain" devices, exactly like the one used onboard the Detroit-bound flight.

The company has also tracked specific -- and in its view -- credible plans to attack planes using deadly biological agents.

[fightinJAG]

Here you go!

Yes, I don’t think this WH has a clue what we are facing.

[Star Traveler]

I guess Islam hasn’t given up on planes yet, as a weapon in their arsenal in the war they are waging against the West...

[fightinJAG]

At some point I would think the airlines would realize the threat to their business and come up with their own plans for increasing security and responding to incidents.

Their sole reliance on the government has been a little stunning considering the trillions of dollars at stake.

(Or is that because the airlines believe they are “too big to fail” anyway?)

[Rushmore Rocks]

FYI

[RummyChick]

the Newark incident may have been a test run. Go in and plant your deadly bomb, biological agent, etc...and the guy going through the scanner picks it up later.

Blow up the plane over a city...does the deadly agent stay in the form or does the explosion kill it...or is there an biological agent that activates on high heat.

I am not flying for some time because of this ....Obama’s administration is incompetent.

[Star Traveler]

Well, I know I don’t want to fly anymore... :-)

The last time I did, however, I did so right at the beginning of Gulf War 2 and I was wondering if I would get off that plane alive. I don’t know if you remember, but if you were flying during the Gulf War 2 stuff going on, you were looking around and over your shoulder for anything out of place... LOL...

Now, on the way back home, I took the Amtrak, because I really didn’t want to fly — and what do you know but some kook got on board the Southwest Chief and went whacko and said there was a bomb on board and pulled the emergency stop for the train. You should have seen everyone jumping off that train... when it stopped... it was a sight to behold... :-)

[NoLibZone]

The muslim and lesbian DHS was busy watching Free Republic.

[fightinJAG]

Or don’t blow up the plane. Just release something that has every passenger dropping like flies within 48 of getting off that plane, see how long it takes to realize what happened, sit back and watch the pandemonium.

I just wonder what steps the airlines could take on their own to augment security. Or are they so highly regulated they cannot even operate like private businesses and protect themselves from threats to their business?

[frposty]

My question is do we get three of these communications per month or three hundred thousand. If the latter than we can’t expect much time to be spent on each one.

[WestCoastGal]

Sick sob’s the lot of them.

Once 0 gets his healthcare and puts everybody on it there will be a shortage of Dr’s, hospitals etc. Medicare recipients will be kicked to the curb, maybe even the white middle class and Jews......sort of like the late 30’s.

Then we will be more than sitting ducks for some kind of biological attack. Actually, we will be anyway since the illegal immigration hasn’t been stopped and hospitals are overrun as it is.

You will have to forgive my pessimism this afternoon, I just got done watching Beck.

Chairman Mao on the WH Christmas tree was like the last straw for me today.

[roses of sharon]

They know...they just don't care, and think they can handle any blowback by using their powerful propaganda arms of MSM/Hollywood/Academia.

More death/fear from terrorism means they more people will turn to government for help, and give Hussein a chance to “lead”, while blaming GWB.

These headchoppers know they will be treated with kid gloves, no torture, no interrogation, no Gitmo,no war in their homelands.... and be given the protection of the US constitution.

3 attacks since GWB left.

[Girlene]

Thanks, fightinJAG! A bit more info on what the jihadi's might be planning from ABCnews, Extremists Online Discussed Blowing Up Planes Weeks Before Northwest Flight 253 Attempt. Read the whole article for a bit of background on those collecting the information.

........................."Internet Forums Advocated Use of Biological Toxins
From those details and level of expertise displayed Aviran says he knew the threats were serious and sent a warning to his company's clients worldwide which include in his words, "Western governmental agencies."

At the same time he claims there have also been terrifying online exchanges about using aerosols filled with biological agents to attack planes.

Two individuals, both well-known members of extremist forums, according to Aviran, have been leading these discussions which include the use of Botulinum toxin. Botulinum is one of the deadliest substances known to mankind.

The two individuals have been participating in Islamic Internet forums for several years and are known to the intelligence gatherers at Terrogence.

Related "These are not kids talking about using biological agents to attack planes. These are two very sophisticated participants who are experts in chemical and biological agents."

According to Aviran, his company monitors 10 main extremist Web sites. The sites use sophisticated security and screening methods to prevent infiltration by Western spy agencies.

To gain access to restricted areas of online discussion takes time and patience. Passwords and user names have to be issued, and members are often barred when they are suspected of working for Western governments.

The sites allow Islamic extremists to share information about how to attack Western targets. Once an attack takes place there is often a surge of traffic about how to improve the method of attack."...........................

[Lancey Howard]

Thanks for the ping.

I really wish Bush and Cheney were still in charge of our national security. Did you see that assclown Brennan make a fool of himself this week when he tried to dispute Cheney, while at the same time his Ubama administration has a policy of “catch and release” for terrorists (returning them to Yemen is like Israel returning terrorists to Hamas) and bringing terrorist masterminds from Gitmo to freaking Manhattan courtrooms so they can lawyer up and get put on trial like they knocked over a liquor store!

It keeps getting sicker and sicker with Ubama, and I definitely do not feel “safe”.

[Girlene]

Yes, Lancey, I saw Brennan this weekend. He was so disappointed in Cheney, yet stood up for Napolitano, and said the “system worked”, again......just not that one day. Next time, I excpect Brennan to tell every American which day the system is not working so we can stay home. Problem solved!

What worries me is obama and his adminstration is treating this as a crime, and not exploiting information out of the terrorist in hand to get further info.. As this article points out, there are credible sources that terrorists are still working on the bombing aspect of taking down a plane, but are also very interested in using a biotoxin to essentially accomplish the same effect.

[lilycicero]

It doesn’t help my flight confidence in knowing that a team of buquas clean the planes at Sea Tac.