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To: Finny
It doesn't bother me that you disagree with me; I'm not sure the converse is true.

I just don't care for her for a large number of reasons. For example, she raised the price of oil for everyone in America for the benefit of Alaska's socialist economy, spreading the oil wealth around her constituents at the expense of Americans.

I also don't find her intelligent or intellectual and seek a candidate who is capable of writing their own book rather than farming it out (and Mitt FAILS at this too, as his book was ghostwritten as well).

I've also had personal dealings with her and her operation and, well, I can't disclose but that is why I am looking elsewhere in 2012.

242 posted on 01/05/2010 1:51:44 PM PST by quietcontrarian
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To: quietcontrarian
For example, she raised the price of oil for everyone in America for the benefit of Alaska's socialist economy, spreading the oil wealth around her constituents at the expense of Americans.

She DID?

Got any data to show us that supports what you've just claimed?

260 posted on 01/05/2010 3:30:36 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: quietcontrarian
For example, she raised the price of oil for everyone in America for the benefit of Alaska's socialist economy, spreading the oil wealth around her constituents at the expense of Americans.

Really? So, you advocate that the state of Alaska allow oil companies to drill on state-owned land for free (as I'm sure you would do as a private citizen if you owned land that had oil and an oil company approached you wanting to drill there, right?), and when Alaska's governer puts her foot down and says "Starting now, we set the terms for the use of state-owned land, not the oil companies," you twist it into "socialist economy" spreading the wealth, oddly for socialists in the form of sending dividend checks to individual Alaskans to spend or save as they please, instead of shovelling it into state coffers for more and bigger government?

Folks who oppose Palin have to resort to misrepresentation and manipulation. Folks who oppose Romney have only to quote his own words.

If you think Palin didn't write this book and use the "ghostwriter" more as an editing savvy consultant, then you're probably pretty limited in intelligence and intellecual capacity yourself, but more than that, you are clearly VERY limited in your world experience. When it comes to the written word and writing "for" other people, on the other hand, I have done that for a living for quite some time.

Whether or not a public figure writes or has ghost-written a book is zero reflection on that figure's character or that person's ideas. What IS a reflection on that character and his/her ideas is WHAT'S IN THE BOOK.

Certainly it bothers me that you disagree with me, and you're only fooling yourself when you claim that folks on Free Republic who disagree with you don't bother you. I'll tell you what really bothers me -- it's that your reasons for disliking Palin are so weak and that you promote them by misleading readers as to the truth.

Now, I would seriously be bothered if your "personal dealings with her and her operation" were legit -- and I wouldn't be bothered by/with you, because that would be blaming the messenger. No, I'd be bothered with Palin.

But every time I've looked into the charges against Palin (in particular the "windfall profits tax on oil companies" charge that you hint at in your post -- I really hope FReepers do their own due diligence and investigate it themselves by reading more than just the newspaper stories, but by going to blogs and reading comments of thoughtful folks with insight), cringing lest I find something that throws clay on her feet, I find that indeed, opponents are using the same techniques against her (of manipulating half-truths and language to mislead readers into making a false conclusion) that others use to promote Romney -- manipulating truths and language to mislead readers, although Romney supporters also often tell outright, blatant lies.

Since the three reasons you suggest for rejecting Palin -- that she's not intellectual enough, not intelligent enough, and advocates socialism, are pretty ridiculous on their face, I figure that the liklihood that your reasons for disliking her due to the "personal dealings" you had with "her and her operation" are probably just as weak minded.

268 posted on 01/05/2010 4:07:02 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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