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Chinese banks find their credit in high demand(no more T-bills)
WP ^ | 01/02/09 | Ariana Eunjung Cha

Posted on 01/02/2010 2:06:06 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Chinese banks find their credit in high demand

By Ariana Eunjung Cha

Washington Post Foreign Service

Saturday, January 2, 2010; A01

BEIJING -- China's state-owned banks have become a main engine of the global recovery, financing the construction of copper mines, purchase of airplanes, expansion of retail stores and other projects even as their U.S. and European counterparts scale back lending.

The surge in Chinese lending, triple the 2008 rate, has provided a lifeline to international corporations during the worst recession in decades, and it reflects a diversification in China's global economic role beyond its holdings of vast amounts of U.S. government debt.

Over the first nine months of 2009, new lending by Chinese banks has injected $1.3 trillion into the world economy, according to statistics from the People's Bank of China, which functions as China's central bank. The beneficiaries have included U.S.-based Southwest Airlines, the Netherlands' Aercap airplane leasing company, Civil Aviation Authority in Dubai, and Foster's brewery and Woolworths supermarket chain in Australia.

China's banks have been signing so many new loan contracts so quickly that the country's banking regulatory commission recently warned them to avoid the "blind" pursuit of size lest they run into the same troubles as their Western counterpar

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bank; china; loan; tbill
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1 posted on 01/02/2010 2:06:08 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 01/02/2010 2:06:45 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If China banks fail they will have to call in Obama’s IOU’s and we don’t have the money,so I wonder what Obama will give them was it a set up from the get go?????.


3 posted on 01/02/2010 2:43:06 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz
T-bills in China's possession are pretty much worthless in the end. China would try to phase them out gradually. However, it won't be an easy task. Who would buy those T-bills in large quantities except U.S. Treasury or Fed? If they balks, China loses big and U.S. dollar will plunge overnight.

Both countries will be mutually destroyed financially.

4 posted on 01/02/2010 2:56:56 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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For years Obama's told us that our enemy was 'fat cat investment bankers' and that Mao was another Mother Teresa.

So, what's it going to be now, are we supposed to start hating the Chinese or do we start liking banks?

5 posted on 01/02/2010 3:09:10 AM PST by expat_panama
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Well, it is not an ‘either-or’ proposition.
6 posted on 01/02/2010 3:21:23 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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Not quite what we are seeing here.

Chinese banks making in situ loans means they are becoming less dependent on income from the west, and are less dependent on American consumers.

If they are big enough, and produce enough, and internally consume enough, they can basically tell us enuff is enuff!

Then, what does Mr. UAW in Detroit say?


7 posted on 01/02/2010 3:24:51 AM PST by djf (What has killed more people? 1) Guns in cars or 2) Cell phones in cars???? Do the math!!!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The dollar plunge would give them the upper hand to call in the t-bill debt I wonder what Obama would give the in trade??China can take the hit but still be strong.


8 posted on 01/02/2010 3:33:56 AM PST by Vaduz
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In the face of a declining dollar, they might be better to divest it now!


9 posted on 01/02/2010 3:35:11 AM PST by djf (What has killed more people? 1) Guns in cars or 2) Cell phones in cars???? Do the math!!!!)
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I think, instead of spending money on T-bills which could become worthless, Chinese want to reallocate money into loans to viable foreign companies. That would make a better source of investment income.
10 posted on 01/02/2010 3:36:12 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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Resources. Africa. The Caribbean.

I have long thought 200 million Russians don’t stand a hoot of a chance against China, and Russia is loaded with oil and minerals and agriculture (and doesn’t have the manpower to get it)!


11 posted on 01/02/2010 3:40:17 AM PST by djf (What has killed more people? 1) Guns in cars or 2) Cell phones in cars???? Do the math!!!!)
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To: Vaduz
what Obama would give the in trade??

Probably nothing.

China can take the hit but still be strong.

Not sure about the 'strong' part. They could hunker down and ride out the storm if they choose to, but it is politically untenable for Chicom. On top of that, massive stimulus by Chinese gov made Chinese hooked on asset bubble. What started as a defensive economic policy to contain the fallout from world economic crisis is now turning into a disaster.

12 posted on 01/02/2010 3:40:49 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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That is what Russian nuke is for.
13 posted on 01/02/2010 3:41:56 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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Aw heck, for me I’m happy doing business with both bankers and the Chinese. My post had to do with Obama’s hatred for banks and his adoration of Mao —wondering how he planned to reconcile to the two.


14 posted on 01/02/2010 3:49:50 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: TigerLikesRooster

From a strategic viewpoint, though, it makes far more sense for China to tackle Russia than us.

They would get hit either way. But Russia is right there, there are not those big lakes in the way.

Besides, then they get the best of both worlds. Access to all the stuff in Russia, and they still keep us as Wally World shoppers.

America has long had a tendency to see Russia and China as being kinda the same, because of communism. But I do not think that is true at all.

If you were to ask me personally, I still think it will come down to US and USSR against China.


15 posted on 01/02/2010 3:50:19 AM PST by djf (What has killed more people? 1) Guns in cars or 2) Cell phones in cars???? Do the math!!!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

BTW, and I think the Chinese know that.


16 posted on 01/02/2010 3:53:22 AM PST by djf (What has killed more people? 1) Guns in cars or 2) Cell phones in cars???? Do the math!!!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Unlike the U.S they save at least 40% of revenue for emergency events we on the otherhand keep spending and our debt is a money pit,I don’t trust Obama & Co. one bit they will sell out in a heart beat my main question what is Obama going to give them when thet call our IOU?


17 posted on 01/02/2010 4:23:02 AM PST by Vaduz
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As I said, he is likely to stiff China by ignoring Chinese demand.


18 posted on 01/02/2010 4:28:59 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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I would give them FRN, with bigger numbersand clown faces.
Barry will probaly deed over all the federal land in the West.
But in reality, I suspect the stage has been set and Barry will follow the script. Theres gonna be a new world order, everyone will join, debts will be forgiven and you get a cool chip implanted that is your new passport/ID, money card, health card, etc.
How wicked is that?


19 posted on 01/02/2010 4:35:09 AM PST by winodog
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Just give them health care!

Then he can win another Noble Peas prize.


20 posted on 01/02/2010 4:36:51 AM PST by djf (What has killed more people? 1) Guns in cars or 2) Cell phones in cars???? Do the math!!!!)
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