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An American Oliver Cromwell, it is time
"Cromwell" ^ | January 1, 2010 | DTogo

Posted on 01/01/2010 2:50:48 PM PST by DTogo

Video at the link.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: cromwell; eringobragh; ireland
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1 posted on 01/01/2010 2:50:48 PM PST by DTogo
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To: DTogo

Hmmmmm, Cromwell killed a lot of innocent civilians, especially in Ireland. Though I’m as much of a Calvinist as Cromwell, he is not a man I consider an unvarnished hero.


2 posted on 01/01/2010 2:56:37 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

I was referring to his actions of literally throwing out a corrupted and ineffective Parliament.


3 posted on 01/01/2010 2:59:17 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

That is for the people, not for one man. What exactly are you advocating?


4 posted on 01/01/2010 3:04:11 PM PST by Eternal_Bear (`)
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To: DTogo

Obama is the American Cromwell. Nothing good about either of them.


5 posted on 01/01/2010 3:04:41 PM PST by Oklahoma
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To: DTogo

Great. A “Lord Protector” AKA “Dictator”. Thats worked SO WELL in the past......


6 posted on 01/01/2010 3:07:07 PM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: DTogo

I prefer to be more obscure... an American Admiral Miklós Horthy.


7 posted on 01/01/2010 3:09:59 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: AnalogReigns

I dont think of him as unvarnished, either, but he saved my family from extinction.

God Bless Cromwell!


8 posted on 01/01/2010 3:13:57 PM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Who’s Who - Miklos Horthy de Nagybanya
Miklos Horthy de Nagybanya (1868-1957) was born into a family of landed gentry. Having entered the Austro-Hungarian navy he served as an aide-de-camp to the Emperor, Franz Josef, prior to the First World War.

With war declared Horthy was made captain of the cruiser Novara towards the close of 1914, in which he established a name as a bold, aggressive commander in numerous surface actions.

Having (probably) planned the raid that resulted in the Otranto Straits action of May 1917, Horthy emerged with renewed fame and credit. So much so that following the mutiny at Cattaro in March 1918, followed by the forced resignation of Admiral Njegovan, Horthy found himself promoted Rear Admiral and appointed Commander in Chief (Austria-Hungary’s last) of the battlefleet over the heads of many more qualified officers.

Notwithstanding this rapid promotion Horthy distinguished himself in his new role by re-energising the by then war weary fleet. Having gained the trust and moreover improved the morale of the fleet, Horthy took care to maintain the stability of the fleet as a deterrent force. At the same time, so as to keep his forces in trim, he reacted to occasional Italian light raids.

The only large-scale offensive operation undertaken by Horthy at this time occurred in June 1918, and was directed against the Otranto Barrage. However this was quickly abandoned following the loss of the dreadnought Szent Istvan.

Fortunately this setback did not affect the loyalty of the fleet until orders came from the Emperor, Karl I, on 31 October requiring him to hand over the fleet to the Yugoslav National Council.

With the disintegration of the Austro-Hungarian empire Horthy returned to Hungary, where he successfully led an uprising against the Communist government of Bela Kun. His forces entered Budapest in November 1919; Horthy established himself as regent the following March, a position he held until the Nazi occupation of 19 March 1944.

Staying on nevertheless as a figurehead, in August 1944 Horthy removed the puppet Nazi government, appointing in its place a government tasked with achieving an armistice. With such an armistice signed in Moscow, Horthy’s attempt to enforce it on 15 October met with determined (and successful) German resistance.

Having been arrested by the Gestapo, Horthy and his family were removed to Germany. He served as a witness at the Nuremberg trials following the war, but was unable to return to Hungary given its Soviet occupation and new Communist government.

Thereafter in exile in Estoril, Portugal, Horthy died in 1957. With the departure of the last Soviet soldier from Hungary in 1993, Horthy was reburied in the town of his birth, Kenderes.

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9 posted on 01/01/2010 3:15:54 PM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: DTogo
Just what the conservative movement needs. A manic-depressive religious puritan lunatic that committed genocide. England's own mini-Hitler.

Brilliant idea.

10 posted on 01/01/2010 3:18:48 PM PST by grand wazoo
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To: Eternal_Bear

See Post #3, Congress needs to be tossed out.


11 posted on 01/01/2010 3:19:25 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Kozak

Again, the tossing of Congress from the premises (see video), not everything else Cromwell did/advocated in his lifetime.


12 posted on 01/01/2010 3:20:42 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: grand wazoo

See post #12.


13 posted on 01/01/2010 3:21:48 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: AnalogReigns
Though I’m as much of a Calvinist as Cromwell, he is not a man I consider an unvarnished hero.

Wasn't he a Puritan?

14 posted on 01/01/2010 3:21:57 PM PST by Ozone34 ("There are only two philosophies: Thomism and bullshitism!" -Leon Bloy)
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To: DTogo

Tyranny would be the result of the position you advocate.


15 posted on 01/01/2010 3:23:46 PM PST by grand wazoo
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To: RaceBannon

And nearly wiped out all the people of Ireland. Thankfully, some who survived became my ancestors and I am here today.
So, I frankly think he went somewhere out of reach of God’s blessing.


16 posted on 01/01/2010 3:25:34 PM PST by La Enchiladita (The Light shines in the darkness.)
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To: DTogo
You could make a case that Hitler and Stalin probably did some good stuff too.

As other posters said, Cromwell murdered thousands of innocent people. He was hardly a hero.

17 posted on 01/01/2010 3:25:44 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: bwc2221

Cromwell was a murdering butcher. V’s wife.


18 posted on 01/01/2010 3:28:04 PM PST by ventana
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To: AnalogReigns

Only Christ is a pure ‘hero’ figure. You can’t ask anyone else to be untainted, it’s not possible. If you think they are you are setting yourself up for disappointment and disillusionment.


19 posted on 01/01/2010 3:28:04 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: bwc2221

Cromwell was a murdering butcher. V’s wife.


20 posted on 01/01/2010 3:28:09 PM PST by ventana
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