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Two illegal aliens charged with murder in Virginia Beach (sanctuary city)
Examiner ^ | Dec. 30, 2009 | Dave Gibson

Posted on 12/31/2009 1:36:26 PM PST by AuntB

On Saturday night, Virginia Beach police arrested Jorge Alberto Fuertes Loredo, 31, and Isidor Loredo Amaya, 31, after Florentino Martinez-Melendez, 40, was shot to death in a trailer park. A second victim survived the shooting but remains in critical condition in a local hospital.

Apparently, the fatal shooting was the result of a heated argument.

Both Loredo and Amaya have been charged with murder and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. Both Mexican nationals are in the country illegally, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement have placed a hold on them.

Virginia Beach Commonwealth Attorney, Harvey Bryant, said that the two illegal aliens have been living in the state for quite some time.

Bryant said: "It appears that Mr. Amaya has been in Virginia for about 10 years, spending his time between Harrisburg, Virginia and here.”

A hearing for the two is scheduled for Feb. 4, 2010.

Both shooting victims were also illegal aliens.

This case demonstrates the ongoing dangers posed by the city’s large illegal immigrant population.

In April 2007, in Virginia Beach, Va., a Mexican national named Alfredo Ramos slammed into the rear of a vehicle in which Allison Kuhnhardt and Tessa Tranchant were stopped while waiting at a traffic light. Ramos, 22 was traveling at a high rate of speed and was drunk at the time (he blew a .14 BAC). The two high school students had to be cut from their crumpled car and both later died after being taken to the hospital. Ramos suffered only a busted lip.

Though an illegal alien, Alfredo Ramos had been living in Virginia Beach for quite a while and worked at local a Mexican restaurant known as Mi Casita. Ramos had been previously convicted of three separate charges of public intoxication, identity theft, and even a DUI, but continued to live in the area. He speaks only Spanish and required an interpreter at all of his court proceedings.

The girls which Ramos killed were ages 16 and 17. Tessa Tranchant's brother Dylan had only been home from Iraq for two weeks, when his sister was killed. Dylan was tasked with identifying his little sister's body. The case gained national fame thanks to the reporting of Fox News' Bill O'Reilly, who helped expose Virginia Beach as a haven for illegal aliens.

O’Reilly placed the spotlight on that city's Mayor and Police Chief and characterized the resort town as a place where drunken Mexican invaders are allowed to roam freely.

Immediately after the case was reported on the O’Reilly Factor, Virginia Beach Police Chief Jake Jacocks went on the offensive and claimed that O'Reilly was wrong in focusing on the fact that Ramos was an illegal alien. He accused the Fox News commentator of turning the girls' deaths into a "political issue."

However, local ABC affiliate WVEC showed that the police chief was at least culpable in the tragedy when they reported that "Chief Jacocks says the policy of not reporting illegals until after three DUI charges was his idea. He hoped it would let illegal immigrants feel comfortable if they were involved in an accident."

Former Mayor Obendorf told reporters: "I never want anyone to miss the fact that someone who was drunk caused the death of two innocent young women, and it had nothing to do with nationality or anyone doing anything inappropriate as far as the government is concerned."

While the leadership of Virginia Beach has never formally declared the city to be a 'sanctuary' for illegal aliens, the way the leadership of Chicago or Tucson have done, it is every bit the haven to invaders that those two cities represent. Virginia Beach is dominated by hotels, restaurants, and housing developers, all of which hire tremendous numbers of illegal aliens.

Hotel owners often declare that they could simply not operate without the influx of Mexican and Central American nationals who can frequently be seen passed out drunk on the beach during the summer. The city has also seen thousands of over-priced cookie cutter homes built in the last several years, most of which have been constructed by illegal Mexican labor.

The building boom turned local convenience and home improvement store parking lots into gathering spots for groups of often drunken Latino men. While the city is very happy raking in huge profits in increased real estate taxes, they pass precious little of that revenue on to the citizens. While having a population of 450,000 residents, Virginia Beach still relies solely on a volunteer rescue squad for medical emergencies.

*Reporter’s note: While city leaders bristled in 2007, at his accusations, Bill O'Reilly got it right. I live here and I am a daily witness to the unlawful transformation of this once beautiful city.

When I initially called the Virginia Beach Correctional Facility and asked a deputy about the immigration status of Loredo and Amaya, I was put on hold for quite a while. When the young man came back on the line, he directed me to another deputy. When I called that number with no answer, I started the process over again.

I was then told that whether or not ICE had placed a hold on the two was “privileged information” and he could not tell me. In fact, until I pressed him, he would not even tell me whether or not the Mexican nationals had been formally charged.

Despite the deputy’s insistence, the suspects’ immigration status is public information, but it was obvious he was only following orders from his superiors.

The rise in crime in Virginia Beach that can be attributed to illegal aliens is no doubt embarrassing to city officials. However, unless the city begins to take seriously the threat posed by the illegal aliens they have welcomed…They will continue to be asked uncomfortable questions as that city’s death toll rises.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; anotherdeadamerican; criminalaliens; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; murder; sanctuarycity; virginiabeach
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Isidor Loredo Amaya

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Thanks, Mexico (or whatever latino 3rd world criminal enterprise they crawled out of)! Four of YOUR citizens...2 of them dead, that we get to bury, 2 of them we'll pay to try, defend and house and feed FOREVER along with the several anchor babies they produced while here. Well, that's 4 that won't get amnesty, I suppose.

1 posted on 12/31/2009 1:36:30 PM PST by AuntB
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To: AuntB

Lets not rush to blame government authorities for allowing and permitting criminals and thugs to come into this country, that is not even related to this.

///sarcasm


2 posted on 12/31/2009 1:38:30 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: AuntB

If they have to kill let them kill their own. Gavin Newsom’s sanctuary city lets them go and they kill American citizens on the streets of SF.


3 posted on 12/31/2009 1:42:34 PM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: GeronL; gubamyster; SwinneySwitch; All

MORE:

Argument leads to stabbing death

SANFORD — Police charged a 23-year-old man with murder Sunday after he allegedly stabbed a man to death.

Police found Ismael Tavera, 25, inside the apartment suffering from several stab wounds to the upper torso area. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

Jose Francisco Hernandez was arrested at his home at 308 Midland Ave. and was charged with first degree murder. He is being held in jail without bond.

Capt. David Smith said the two men were intoxicated and began arguing. When things escalated, Hernandez allegedly stabbed Tavera to death.

http://sanfordherald.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Argument+leads+to+stabbing+death%20&id=5342912&instance=most_commented


4 posted on 12/31/2009 1:44:28 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

Murder? No big deal. They’re illegal aliens, so they get sanctuary.


5 posted on 12/31/2009 1:48:09 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: All

Also in today’s news:

Guilty pleas in visa scam
Norristown Times Herald - Michael P. Rellahan - DEc. 31, 2009

[snips] To further the fraud, IPR chartered buses that brought aliens from Mexico to West Chester, where they were picked up by their former employers and returned to the employment sites, officials charged. Between February and June 2005, Glah shuttled about 433 illegal aliens this way, the attorney general’s office alleged.

“They were almost like a shadow government, because they procured all these visas and they were the ones able to control who’s getting them,”..

Their operation was complex; they essentially created a pool of fake work visas that IPR could use when a client needed extra workers.

In some cases, undocumented workers were sent home and given stockpiled visas to re-enter the country and return to their jobs, authorities said. IPR would coach them to tell immigration officials they had never been in the country illegally, according to the 11-count federal information.
http://www.timesherald.com/articles/2009/12/31/news/doc4b3c3536bb7b0018556832.txt


6 posted on 12/31/2009 1:49:38 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB
Well, that's 4 that won't get amnesty, I suppose.

That two of them won't get amnesty is for certain. The others may well get amnesty if Obama and the Dems get their way. Sure, the road to citizenship is longer when it bpasses through the prison system. But that just means Amaya and friend will have to wait a little longer before gaining citizenship.

7 posted on 12/31/2009 1:52:24 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: AuntB
"Both Mexican nationals are in the country illegally..."

They should have applied for a job working for the Kenyan illegal alien.

8 posted on 12/31/2009 1:52:57 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: AuntB

9 posted on 12/31/2009 1:53:56 PM PST by Dubya (II)
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To: AuntB
I used to do business in Va. Bch. but turned out everyone I dealt with was a pain in the ass. So, I stopped going there. Didn't really need them any way.
10 posted on 12/31/2009 1:59:02 PM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt; stephenjohnbanker; blackie; Clintonfatigued; sickoflibs; Pelham; Czar; raybbr; ...

Check it out...Enforcement DOES work!

Immigration, economy affecting number of births in Arizona
Dec. 30, 2009 12:00 AM

[snip]state’s Department of Health Services show a 7 percent drop in the number of infant births in the past year alone and a more than 10 percent drop over the past two years....

But the impact of the state’s anti-illegal-immigration efforts, particularly the nearly 2-year-old employer-sanctions law, cannot be ignored, he said....

So far this year, there have been 3,193 fewer births among Hispanics compared with 2008.

“2001-07, the major force of population dynamics in Arizona was the in-migration, rather than an increase in births over deaths,” Mrela said in an e-mail.

“Since 2008, because of all the factors mentioned, Arizona isn’t really an inviting state.”

http://www.azcentral.com/community/chandler/articles/2009/12/30/20091230babydrop.html


11 posted on 12/31/2009 1:59:33 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB
Ramos had been previously convicted of three separate charges of public intoxication, identity theft, and even a DUI, but continued to live in the area. He speaks only Spanish and required an interpreter at all of his court proceedings.

Wanna bet how fluent in English he becomes when his paycheck is late? What a waste of oxygen.

12 posted on 12/31/2009 2:00:29 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: bgill; All

More news...ENFORCEMENT works! BTW, the new amnesty proposed in the house of reps (CIR ASAP) will do away with the 287g program..

Gwinnett Sheriff: Illegal Immigrant Program Successful
Gwinnett County Sheriff Credits Program For Drop In Jail Population

[snip]the jail population is down and fewer illegal immigrants are committing crimes.

Conway said it’s all because of the highly controversial 287(g) program.

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/news/22095305/detail.html


13 posted on 12/31/2009 2:04:28 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

Mexicans. Again. A more reprobate nationality the world has not seen.


14 posted on 12/31/2009 2:10:34 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: AdvisorB

*VA Beach ping*


15 posted on 12/31/2009 2:14:23 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: AuntB

The entire Va. Beach government should be charged with accessory to murder.


16 posted on 12/31/2009 2:18:10 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: ought-six; All

More news..another dead american...

Police Charged Undocumented Immigrant In Crash
Posted: Dec 30, 2009 3:09 AM PST

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Police charged a suspected undocumented immigrant in a fatal Christmas day crash.

Metro police said 22-year-old Ramon Nerl Olea was driving on Haywood Lane on Christmas morning when he lost control of his car and hit a Mitsubishi Gallant.

All four people in the Gallant were taken to the hospital. Tika Koirala, 46, was critically injured in that crash and died Tuesday.

Police said Olea smelled of alcohol, so they charged him with vehicular homicide by intoxication.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents currently have custody of Olea.

http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=11746355


17 posted on 12/31/2009 2:18:51 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: patriot preacher; All

More news today:

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/phoenixmetro/central/story/DPS-10-in-custody-others-flee-after-Phoenix/Q2uQSAR1DUCZUrmC1YyTTw.cspx

DPS: 10 in custody, others flee after Phoenix traffic stop

[snip]He said the vehicle came to a stop and approximately 12-15 males in their 20s took off running.

Phoenix police were able to round up a number of the subjects on the shoulder of the freeway and DPS officers found four males and two females in the vehicle.

Graves said the driver was not caught.


18 posted on 12/31/2009 2:22:55 PM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: ought-six

This happens every day.


19 posted on 12/31/2009 2:28:04 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: bgill

Dontcha just love sanctuary cities...*sigh*


20 posted on 12/31/2009 3:10:16 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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