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Ben Nelson Panics: Starts Massive Ad Campaign - ObamaCare Will Kill Careers
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Posted on 12/31/2009 9:56:13 AM PST by Michael van der Galien

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To: Michael van der Galien

they need to recall his butt.


41 posted on 12/31/2009 10:50:18 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: Michael van der Galien

He’s made Nebraska the laughingstock of the nation. Why shouldn’t they tar and feather him? The sooner the better.


42 posted on 12/31/2009 10:52:55 AM PST by prairiebreeze
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To: bitt

I’d encourage everybody to send in a few dollars to Brown. even a small contribution of $20 or less amounts to something if there are many of them. This is a long shot, but it is not impossible. There are many citizens in Massachusetts who are just as disgusted with event in Washington as any of us are.


43 posted on 12/31/2009 11:10:28 AM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: Michael van der Galien
And they may be right - although I think they underestimate the American people. They’re more independent-minded than leftists think.

They may be ... however, the independent spirit that made this country great is being neutralized, watered down, by illegal immigrants being awarded U.S. citizenship and the usual suspects already ensconced in the gimme, gimme, welfare state mentality.

44 posted on 12/31/2009 11:10:40 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: C19fan
State imposed recall and term limits are unconstitutional for Federal offices.

I understand that under the original Constitution, as amended by the Bill of Rights, the states appointed their US Senators using whatever method they wished.

Under that Constitution, I don't see why the state couldn't recall him.

But when they changed the procedure to making senator a statewide office subject to federal election, in addition to ruining the republic, the feds got the income tax passed (somewhere round 1912 or so.)

Maybe someone who is better versed in this thing can clarify and correct any misinformation I may have included above.

45 posted on 12/31/2009 11:10:50 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: jospehm20

Like most in Washington he thought everyone would forget his vote when reelection comes around ...this is not just any vote this one will not be forgotten...


46 posted on 12/31/2009 11:12:22 AM PST by goat granny
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To: HIDEK6
I understand that under the original Constitution, as amended by the Bill of Rights, the states appointed their US Senators using whatever method they wished. Under that Constitution, I don't see why the state couldn't recall him.

The first statment is correct but the original Section 3 Clause 3 clearly states Senators are to serve 6 years. The state Legislature got to choose who would be Senator but once in there he/she had a six year term with no recall. The term "Recall" would not enter the political vocabulary until 100 years after the Consitution was written with the rise of the Progressives.

47 posted on 12/31/2009 11:18:38 AM PST by C19fan
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To: GauchoUSA; Guyin4Os
“Can Nebraska recall a senator?”

"I don’t see why not"

There is no provision in the Constitution for recall of any federal official. And the State's Constitution has no jurisdiction, aside from a criminal case.

The Senate or the House may oust a sitting member. But the voters have no recourse -- except the next election.

48 posted on 12/31/2009 11:21:59 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: oblomov
Senate rules only apply to proceedings in the Senate.

I think their rules effect more than just the *proceedings* of the Senate.Remember the talk about Dirty Harry unilaterally declaring Frankenstein the winner in MN regardless of the vote outcome,etc?

They can’t bind the public.

You would think that that would be the case but I don't think it's true.

Depending on state laws,a Senator may be recalled.

Can you name a state with such a law? Can you name a Senator who's ever been (or,at least,recently been) removed/expelled from the Senate without a vote by the Senate,a ruling by the Senate Majority Leader or as the result of some sort of imprisonment?

49 posted on 12/31/2009 11:24:16 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: HIDEK6
But when they changed the procedure to making senator a statewide office subject to federal election, in addition to ruining the republic, the feds got the income tax passed (somewhere round 1912 or so.)

Close. It was the 17th Amendment, which became effective in 1913.

50 posted on 12/31/2009 11:26:15 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

So was the income tax passed under the 18th amendment? I had in my mind that it started sometime around WW1.


51 posted on 12/31/2009 11:32:07 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: C19fan

Thank you for the clarification.


52 posted on 12/31/2009 11:35:11 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: Michael van der Galien

Nelson is nothing but a political bum - vote him out of office .


53 posted on 12/31/2009 11:38:44 AM PST by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: HIDEK6
Amendment 16 - Status of Income Tax Clarified. Ratified 2/3/1913

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

54 posted on 12/31/2009 11:42:04 AM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: LonePalm
But, since Sen. McConnell has said that he will not approve any conference appointees ...

Aha, I had forgotten about that little maneuver available. Do you suppose the Dems will be able to force the House to accept the Senate version in order to avoid the rest of the procedural steps to passage, or will they have to accede to the uber-left who won't accept that there is no public option at this point?

55 posted on 12/31/2009 11:46:37 AM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: LonePalm; IMissPresidentReagan; CourtneyLeigh; Just Kimberly; Knuckrider; MBohman; ...
If the House makes any changes, than it goes back to the Senate. Ordinarily, it would go to a House/Senate conference committee. The resulting bill would then only require a 51 vote majority. But, since Sen. McConnell has said that he will not approve any conference appointees, it will have to be taken up by the Senate as a new bill. This means a minimum of three cloture (60) votes.

...some interesting info. here. Is this a feasible plan?

A Kentucky Ping.


56 posted on 12/31/2009 11:55:24 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: HIDEK6
The 16th amendment (income tax) was also ratified in 1913.

The initial levy was a flat 3% tax on everything above $800.

57 posted on 12/31/2009 12:00:39 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Here’s hoping that this is a sign of a bloodbath for all those who voted for sold there votes, like common whores, and that enjoy having to get a real job.

Oh wait, there are no jobs to be had thanks to o-bow-man and his willing plantation slaves.


58 posted on 12/31/2009 12:07:03 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: MozarkDawg
I doubt that Stupak and the other Blue Dogs will be very happy about the abortion language in the Senate bill.

It only takes three of them to swap sides and the Senate bill fails in the house.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

59 posted on 12/31/2009 12:09:10 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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So, did anyone see the ad? Have a report?


60 posted on 12/31/2009 8:46:11 PM PST by youturn (Conference, Christine!)
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