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Western troops accused of executing 10 Afghan civilians, including children
Times on line ^ | 12/31/09 | Jerome Starkey In Kabul

Posted on 12/30/2009 8:59:29 PM PST by Nachum

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To: Dementio

“But isn’t the killing of their children a motivation for more of them to blow themselves up against us?”

I’m not sure that there’s a whole lot more we can do to motivate them. If we REALLY want to stop ourselves from motivating them, we would need to do the following (in my opinion - the further down the list you go, the better the results):

1) Enforce laws so that Muslims are not signaled out in any way for extra security screening (such as in airports).
2) Allow mosques to preach hatred and violence against those who are not Islamic (or not the right brand of Islam), while still prosecuting other hate speech.
3) Stop killing innocent Muslims in the Middle East
4) End our military presence in the Middle East.
5) End our support for Arab governments that the bad guys don’t like (such as Saudi Arabia, in particular).
6) End all of our support for and boycott Israel (i.e., treat them like we treated South Africa at the end).
7) End our support for any other Muslim government that they don’t approve of.
8) Allow Sharia law to be implemented in the United States, along side existing civil and criminal law.
9) Give US Muslims the option of bypassing US civil law, and instead submitting to Sharia law.
10) Give US Muslims the option of bypassing US criminal law, and instead submitting to Sharia law.
11) Eliminate US civil and criminal law, and replace it with Sharia law.
12) Declare Islam as the official religion of the United States and revise our official calendar accordingly.
13) Prevent growth of non-Islamic religions.
14) Make life difficult for non-Islamic religions
15) Eliminate Pork from the United States
16) Close down all non-Islamic religions
17) Ban the Bible
18) Require conversion to Islam for all non-Islamic Americans.
[the above is pretty much the process that many countries have gone through, when converting to an Islamic society...although most of those countries have not fully completed the list]

- or Option B -

Option B: Fight them on their terms.

So, we’re at #2 (from the long list), and you’re suggesting #3, which is fine, but we have a heck of a long way to go before we FULLY meet their long-term objectives. Personally, I like Option B.


81 posted on 01/01/2010 9:42:58 AM PST by BobL (When Democrats start to love this country more than they hate Republicans, good things might happen.)
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I doubt Americans would consent to mimic the Muslims’ treachery, but certainly we could have more vigor in what George W. Bush called “taking the battle to the enemy.”


82 posted on 01/01/2010 12:16:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Shaun_MD

No that’s wrong as well. They were all on a hill-walking holiday on their way to do do their climate change degree course at Fuzziwuzzi University.

By the way, your last post made me spit my beef stir fry all over the screen.

You owe me £4.25 Tex !


83 posted on 01/01/2010 1:18:27 PM PST by jabbermog (Fight Climate Change - Stop Bacteria Farting !)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“I doubt Americans would consent to mimic the Muslims’ treachery, but certainly we could have more vigor in what George W. Bush called “taking the battle to the enemy.””

Agree. All we really have to do is have a president that says something like: “The prisoners said that they were tortured at Abdul-Grab, our troops say no, we believe our troops, but will take a quick look to see if anything egregious happened.” In other words, we believe Americans before we believe the enemy...and if it’s not completely clear that the Americans were out of line, then sorry, those are the breaks.

The idea of giving them Koreans, prayer rugs, and Hillel meals (or whatever it is they want for their religion) when in jail is despicable. We need to give them reasons for NOT wanting to land in US custody, not reasons to have an extended hotel stay.


84 posted on 01/01/2010 3:23:55 PM PST by BobL (When Democrats start to love this country more than they hate Republicans, good things might happen.)
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To: Nachum

‘Sounds contrived. I’m sure that as anxious as islamobama is to courtmartial our forces that American commanders would not allow such a My Lai scenario to take place.

But if so, let’s see them. Bring them forward. Nary a one, I’ll bet.


85 posted on 01/01/2010 9:04:09 PM PST by onedoug
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To: 2banana

“0bama’s war...”

EXACTLY


86 posted on 01/04/2010 7:47:23 AM PST by DrewsMum (If a tax on tanning beds is not racist, then neither is a tax on Jerry Curl.....)
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