Posted on 12/29/2009 9:24:17 PM PST by RobinMasters
I’ve already written about how his isolationist garbage leads inexorably to nonsense like this, so let me just add two points. First, and most obviously, there is no U.S. occupation of Yemen or Nigeria. The only way the airline plot is a reaction to U.S. “occupation” is if you accept the jihadist premise that there are no Arab/Muslim nation-states but rather only one Islamic caliphate waiting to be born. Only in that way does the U.S. occupation of Iraq warrant a reprisal from, say, a Pakistani or Yemeni. And yet, needless to say, if Britain was attacked tomorrow and Obama pledged U.S. forces to assist in the reprisal, Paul would be the first guy to scream that we should scrupulously observe national boundaries and not go fighting another country’s battles for it.
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The murderers on the Achille Lauro said that the American citizen Leon Klinghoffer provoked them, too. I don’t believe that Larry King has been brave enough to feature one of their apologists, until Ron Paul came out.
Ron Paul owes me an apology since he started making apologies for the murdering terrorists from islam, years ago. He continues to repeat it, as though the motives of Osama Bin Ladin and this latest bomber are sufficient to support what they are, and have been, doing to continue the terror.
The first attack on the Towers was in 1993. There have been a whole series of attacks against United States civilian citizens in the US and abroad since then.
More than that, there have also been various sanctions, treaties and negotiations, such as those fraudulently broken by Saddam Hussein.
Worse yet,
Always, always, quote in context.
FYI - the entire statement:
Let’s see here — Terry.
Q Mr. President, before the war, you and members of your administration made several claims about Iraq that U.S. troops would be greeted as liberators with sweets and flowers, that Iraqi oil revenue would pay for most of the reconstruction; and that Iraq not only had weapons of mass destruction, but as Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld said, we know where they are. How do you explain to Americans how you got that so wrong? And how do you answer your opponents, who say that you took this nation to war on the basis of what have turned out to be a series a false premises?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, let me step back and review my thinking prior to going into Iraq. First, the lesson of September the 11th is, when this nation sees a threat, a gathering threat, we’ve got to deal with it. We can no longer hope that oceans protect us from harm. Every threat we must take seriously.
Saddam Hussein was a threat. He was a threat because he had used weapons of mass destruction on his own people. He was a threat because he coddled terrorists. He was a threat because he funded suiciders. He was a threat to the region. He was a threat to the United States. That’s the assessment that I made from the intelligence, the assessment that Congress made from the intelligence; that’s the exact same assessment that the United Nations Security Council made with the intelligence.
I went to the U.N., as you might recall, and said, either you take care of him, or we will. Any time an American President says, if you don’t, we will, we better be prepared to. And I was prepared to. I thought it was important for the United Nations Security Council that when it says something, it means something, for the sake of security in the world. See, the war on terror had changed the calculations. We needed to work with people. People needed to come together to work. And, therefore, empty words would embolden the actions of those who are willing to kill indiscriminately.
The United Nations passed a Security Council resolution unanimously that said, disarm or face serious consequences. And he refused to disarm.
I thought it was very interesting that Charlie Duelfer, who just came back — he’s the head of the Iraqi Survey Group — reported some interesting findings from his recent tour there. And one of the things was, he was amazed at how deceptive the Iraqis had been toward UNMOVIC and UNSCOM; deceptive in hiding things. We knew they were hiding things — a country that hides something is a country that is afraid of getting caught. And that was part of our calculation. Charlie confirmed that. He also confirmed that Saddam had a — the ability to produce biological and chemical weapons. In other words, he was a danger. He had long-range missiles that were undeclared to the United Nations; he was a danger. And so we dealt with him.
What else — part of the question — oh, oil revenues. Well, the oil revenues are — they’re bigger than we thought they would be at this point in time. I mean, one year after the liberation of Iraq, the revenues of the oil stream is pretty darn significant. One of the things I was concerned about prior to going into Iraq was that the oil fields would be destroyed. But they weren’t, they’re now up and running. And that money is — it will benefit the Iraqi people. It’s their oil, and they’ll use it to reconstruct the country.
>>>>>> Finally, the attitude of the Iraqis toward the American people — it’s an interesting question. They’re really pleased we got rid of Saddam Hussein. And you can understand why. This is a guy who was a torturer, a killer, a maimer; there’s mass graves. I mean, he was a horrible individual that really shocked the country in many ways, shocked it into a kind of — a fear of making decisions toward liberty. That’s what we’ve seen recently. Some citizens are fearful of stepping up. And they were happy — they’re not happy they’re occupied. I wouldn’t be happy if I were occupied either. They do want us there to help with security, and that’s why this transfer of sovereignty is an important signal to send, and it’s why it’s also important for them to hear we will stand with them until they become a free country.
I think I see your point, but I was believe I saw it when he said it. I was a big fan of his at the time and remember a lot of the text, so it’s likely I caught it live. Still, I’m just saying he pretty much called us occupiers, regardless of the reason.
Too tired to continue tonight though so I bid g’nite to all. Have to prep for New Years celebration. Hard to imagine having any reason or means to celebrate with the Obammaconomy marching us all to poverty.
No, I posted the entire transcript portion for you to see where he said what was clipped on the you-tube, but I posted it in context.
The you-tube poster merely edited it. President Bush did say “occupied.”
it’s my country
so ..NO.
I volunteered. Did you?
And buy not another single drop of oil from them.
And buy not another single drop of oil from them."
Best post on this entire thread.
I'll add, if Hamas fires at Israel with rocks or rockets and Israel blows them up in retaliation, the US doesn't send the PA any money to rebuild their shi%.
We can dream DTogo.
Too bad some dreams don't come true.
And buy not another single drop of oil from them."
Best post on this entire thread.
I'll add, if Hamas fires at Israel with rocks or rockets and Israel blows them up in retaliation, the US doesn't send the PA any money to rebuild their shi%.
We can dream DTogo.
Too bad some dreams don't come true.
Personally, I think Congress are “occupiers” and we will jihad them out of office in 2010..
You need to lay off the Meth pipe and pot more often.
You see, we are NOT the aggressors.
There used to be 2, yes, two very large buildings in a place called New York City. Then, there were these people who the evil United States calls “TERRORISTS” (You would call them freedom fighters) who flew several large private commercial jet airliners filled with innocent people into those buildings.
Of course, the one that hit the pentagon was a draw because the Military owed the rest of the World for all that Occupation under the guise of freedom and liberation that they are guilty of since World War 1, 2 and ever since.
NO WAY! Would we ever go into a country to stop some tyrranical oppressive dictator like Hitler. Our REAL motive is to take over all their land and economic system to squander for our own capitalist greed. That, and we want their land, homes and their women.
OF COURSE! Can’t you see it!!!!! It’s a conspiracy of the New World Order!!!!!!!!
Exactly. Very well put.
Well, some of us had to go to bed early before commenting.....
:-)
I was waiting to see if some of the 1%ers would come on the thread before having fun with them.
*Off to look for 1%ers*
Heh. One of your “non-interventionist” posse pings is waiting for you.........
OMG. A truther.....
And here I thought you people were all locked up in Bush/Hitler's prisons.
Yep...
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