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Vt. Judge: Birth Mom Must Give Child To Ex-Partner [Have We Gone Mad?]
Sacramento Bee ^ | December 29, 2009 | Wilson Ring

Posted on 12/29/2009 10:40:34 AM PST by Steelfish

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To: freeangel

What is sin is just another life-style choice to the American people and their judges, juries, and legislators.


181 posted on 12/30/2009 12:28:03 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: rcrngroup

The American people’s government cannot find bin Laden, but it wouldn’t take the government five hours to find Ms. Miller. It’s a matter of the American people’s liberal priorities.


182 posted on 12/30/2009 12:33:04 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: trumandogz

Your tag is wrong. Senators McC and Cornyn swear it is only 93.6 percent.


183 posted on 12/30/2009 12:35:08 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: trumandogz

Not if she is in a country without an extradition treaty.


184 posted on 12/30/2009 6:38:28 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: trumandogz
There is a strong possibility that Janet Jenkins is the actual biological mother and that Lisa Miller simply carried the baby. If that is the case, the court is in fact granting the biological mother custody and Ms. Miller in nothing more than a kidnapper.

Nonsense, and you know it.

185 posted on 12/30/2009 6:39:58 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: rcrngroup
Your {sic} a coward with regard to Joe Farah and you're afraid of him.

Trust me. I am not intellectually afraid of anyone who insists that there are pterodactyls alive on earth and buzzing over our heads. However, I am concerned about the state of a person's well being if they believe pterodactyls are still alive.

And the advice you would give to Lisa Miller to submit to an unlawful & immoral court order and give up her biological daughter to some rogue judicial ruling is beyond comprehension. Is that what you would do??? You would turn your children over to the state or someone else's custody because some rogue two-bit judge told you to???

Well, since I never found myself in a Civil Union with a person of my same gender, I cannot fully appreciate her plight. However, she did elect to enter into the Civil Union and have a child.

And at this point in the process, both the Vermont and Virginia courts have ruled against Ms. Miller and our society would devolve into chaos if each of us decided that for what ever reason we would not comply with laws and court orders.

186 posted on 12/30/2009 7:50:48 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
You're still a coward & afraid of Joe Farah as you continue to stonewall & refuse to talk with him in person (on the phone). Let me know when you work up the courage. Or just get rid of your obsession with Joe Farah and stick with your NY Times & liberal MSM for your news sources.

I will comply with court orders that are moral & just. Not immoral & unjust laws. You're using the Nazi defense that they were "only following orders". Would you turn in your guns if the liberals & courts decide that you can no longer own a gun? What about doctors who will be ordered to perform abortions under ObozoCare? Would you turn your kids over if ordered by a judge? Even our military gives our soldiers the right to refuse to obey immoral & unjust orders. Lisa Miller is more than justified to refuse to obey this corrupt ruling & turn her biological child over to lesbian pervert based on some rogue, arrogant, haughty offended Judge Cohen. Neither a Vermont appeals court or a Virginia appeals court have ruled on his petulant decision to take a biological child from her mother and give custody to a non-biological hostile lesbian who refused to adopt the child. Even the liberals & gays in Vermont are concerned about this ruling from Judge Cohen. He just has his panties in a wad, because Lisa Miller chose not to fall on her knees & face to obey this sick judge.

You sure are adamament that Lisa Miller turn her child over to a lesbian pervert in multiple posts of yours. Makes me wonder if that is what you really are. Are you sure you're on the right website? I think DUmmmmie Underground.com might be more to your liking.

I would be more than happy to financially contribute monthly to any fund set up to support Lisa Miller if she goes into hiding.

187 posted on 12/30/2009 8:15:34 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup
You're still a coward & afraid of Joe Farah as you continue to stonewall & refuse to talk with him in person (on the phone). Let me know when you work up the courage. Or just get rid of your obsession with Joe Farah and stick with your NY Times & liberal MSM for your news sources.

Now, you do realize that it is not just Trumandogz, the New York Times and the liberal MSM that understands that pterodactyls are extinct.

But, apparently, it is only you and Mr. Farah who believe that there are still pterodactyls with 40 ft. wing spans flying above the earth at this very moment.

So, if you like you can send me Mr. Farah's phone number and I will call to debate him on the pterodactyl question at his convenience.

188 posted on 12/30/2009 8:39:43 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
But, apparently, it is only you and Mr. Farah who believe that there are still pterodactyls with 40 ft. wing spans flying above the earth at this very moment.

I am not familiar with the article and I really don't care about this one anyway, as Joe Farah does a better job than any other news source to uncover & break news that the MSM does everything in its power to ignore or cover-up. So quit making some arbitrary judgement that I believe in pterodactyls as Joe Farah is more than able to defend himself.

Try this.....

http://www.wnd.com/Contact%20WND
Then search for the right link

BTW I was listening to some YouTube videos of Michael Savage as he absolutely destroys liberals and their demented liberal logic. One of the things he said, which is absolutely true, is that making or passing a law (or a judge's ruling) does not make it right or legal in any sense of the word. History is filled with "laws" that were created with the sole purpose of butchering & murdering people. The first thing Hitler did was to make "laws" that singled out & identified Jews, their businesses & their homes. We know how that turned out. Our own country had laws that at one time permitted slavery and prosecuted anyone who gave aid or assistance to helping slaves escape to freedom. Our country was founded by patriots who rebelled against unjust, immoral laws and refused to obey them and took up arms against the King of England. We have the right to take up arms against a corrupt ruling government (according to the Declaration of Independence) "That whenever any form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government". We have the right & duty to oppose laws or judicial rulings by some pro-homo/pro-lesbian biased rogue judge who really just was looking for the right moment to take a biological daughter from her mother and give that child to a sexual pervert & predator lesbian, who hates Christianity & Lisa Miller AND her daughter who are all Christians. I am still stunned by your post #174 that you recommend that Lisa Miller should comply with this complete atrocity of a rogue judge's ruling and turn her child's custody over to a rabid, hate-filled lesbian. Michael Savage would "savage" you with that type of demented liberal logic & pro-homo/pro-lesbian bias. He clearly states that NO ONE is more hateful than liberals, lesbians & homos. I hope that Lisa Miller would never run into you, as you would be like the Nazi sympathizers & Quislings who turn in their friends & neighbors to the Gestapo.

And you never answered my question, especially the last one.....

Would you turn in your guns if the liberals & courts decide that you can no longer own a gun? What about doctors who will be ordered to perform abortions under ObozoCare? Would you turn your kids custody over to a homosexual or lesbian, or to the state if ordered by a judge?

189 posted on 12/30/2009 9:44:18 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: DoughtyOne

Exactly right.. Well said. I am no advocate of homosexualism, believe me, but it’s not about their sexual orientation in this matter. The precedent is crystalized concerning custodial arrangements.

D-


190 posted on 12/31/2009 8:58:32 AM PST by D521646
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To: Ol' Sparky

Dear Lord.. People, look, I am convinced that homosexuals abuse children as a percentage much higher than heterosexuals, but for God’s sake,let’s get a grip here. Any parent will tell you that they bath with thier children at very young ages. I even bathed with my daughter until she was 2, and I’m a man.. Good grief!! let’s keep things in perspective here. I hate defending this Jenkins woman, butlet’s not lose our judgement becuase of our objections to a particular lifestyle.

D-


191 posted on 12/31/2009 9:05:05 AM PST by D521646
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To: D521646
Any parent will tell you that they bath with thier children at very young ages. I even bathed with my daughter until she was 2, and I’m a man..

The difference in this case is that girl in this case is a virtual stranger to Jenkins.

192 posted on 12/31/2009 9:15:29 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Perhaps, but from what I gleen from the information is that, Jenkins was with the Mother for at least a year after the baby wasborn,and the separation. After which, the Mother denied Jenkins any visitation priviledges, refusing to abode by the court order concerning parents right’s, and disregarding any direction from the courts on her behavior.

In a nut shell, the Mother (in the guise of protecting her daughter) was in contempt. Which, by the way I might add. If you want to hear horror stories about the family court system in the USA, it’s not that difficult to research. The bias towards men in this country is egregious, but it’s getting better. Woman lie, and purger themselves all the time, and are left to unaccount for their lies. In a spearation where children are involved, it is almost mandatory that the female file for a protection order against the man, even if there is no valid reason to do so..

It’s a system that is need of serious overhaul, I can tell you first hand as I went, and am continuing to go through it! I stopped paying for lawyers as they all seemed complicit in the whole scheme, and what I did was educate myself with 1000’s of hours of legal research, and I have represented myself for years now.

The truth is that, unless you catch your ex with a frigging needle in her arm, as a man, you stand little chance of getting shared custody. You not only pay with your valuable, and irreconcilable time you lose with your children, you pay through your wallet as a result. The system, I am convinced is set up this way to make sure that the Mother’s are not left having to work for a living, tax free baby.. This way Mommy can stay home on your dime, and work part time as a casual inference.. :)

Bottom line, if Mother had obeyed, they wouldn’t be in the situation they are in now. As to the Mother’s credibility? I seriously doubt her story, especially since no evidence was presented, and no court believed her enough to sway their opinion. In essence, the Mother played the same card a lot of disgruntled Mother’s play out in the courtrooms of America each and every day!

D-


193 posted on 12/31/2009 9:31:44 AM PST by D521646
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To: chris37

You owe the world some apology pictures.

Catherine Zeta-Jones, Elisha Cuthbert, something.


194 posted on 12/31/2009 11:26:00 AM PST by Dr. North
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To: Dr. North

You are right, Dr. North, but I think I will go with Alizee of France!

195 posted on 12/31/2009 4:21:46 PM PST by chris37
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To: chris37

Who is this?


196 posted on 12/31/2009 6:03:09 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: Dr. North

That is Ingrid Alizee, she is a french pop singer, much like Brittney Spears, only Alizee is actually attractive, and a bit more talented.

Here I will link a couple of videos of her. These are not necessarily to be viewed for the quality if the musical content though.

J’en Ai Marre performed by Alizee:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceSxEjwXHcM

La Isla Bonita performed by Alizee:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZlgNj-rIxw

Honestly, she’s the best photographic apology I could come up with for my other pics.

Enjoy :D


197 posted on 12/31/2009 7:25:58 PM PST by chris37
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To: chris37

Nice work.

If she proposes marriage to me, I shall accept.


198 posted on 12/31/2009 8:50:48 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: D521646

Thank your. Glad we agree on this one.


199 posted on 01/02/2010 11:49:00 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will be made citizens.)
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To: D521646

No, not any parent. I have a 4 year old son and I have never bathed with him. I never thought it was appropriate to do so. (MY personal opinion)


200 posted on 01/02/2010 11:54:36 AM PST by pnz1
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