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Stocks will drop sharply, Pimco’s CEO predicts
Boston Globe ^ | 28 December 2009 | Associated Press

Posted on 12/28/2009 4:59:58 AM PST by John.Galt2012

This burst of economic activity fed by government spending and near-zero interest rates will soon peter out.

El-Erian oversees nearly $1 trillion in assets. What he’s saying:

■Stocks will drop 10 percent in the space of three or four weeks, though he’s not predicting when.

■The unemployment rate will be hovering above 8 percent a year from now.

■US gross domestic product will grow at an average of 2 percent or so for years - a third slower than we’re used to.

El-Erian says people are fooling themselves if they think all the bullish data of late mean a strong recovery is in the offing. So he’s buying Treasurys and selling riskier stuff.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


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Obviously this guy is an Obama hater. We are well on our way to recovery./s
1 posted on 12/28/2009 4:59:58 AM PST by John.Galt2012
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To: John.Galt2012

Yes, even though he’s a co-religionist of obama, he has the guts to contradict the pretender.


2 posted on 12/28/2009 5:02:20 AM PST by Salvey
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To: Salvey

I got out at 10,390.


3 posted on 12/28/2009 5:26:18 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: John.Galt2012; Just Lori; blam

Only 10%?? I think this fellow is wildly (and close to irrationally) optimistic....to put it politely...


4 posted on 12/28/2009 5:31:30 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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To: John.Galt2012
"Stocks will drop 10 percent in the space of three or four weeks, though he’s not predicting when."

They will drop by a factor larger than 10%.

■"The unemployment rate will be hovering above 8 percent a year from now."

The manipulated and deceiving unemployment numbers used by the government will themselves show 12 to 14% unemployment rate next year.

"■US gross domestic product will grow at an average of 2 percent or so for years - a third slower than we’re used to."

We will have several years of no growth... a shrinkage... like hussein's manhood when compared to Bush's.

LLS

5 posted on 12/28/2009 6:05:57 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: John.Galt2012
I am not an economist, or anything even close to being well-schooled in matters of the economy, but I see this guy's projections as a from of damning with faint praise. Surely he jests.

I am convinced from a lifetime of observation that the laws of economics are as concrete as those of physics, just a lot slower to exert themselves. I don't think we can avoid a major worldwide depression at this point than we could avoid falling to our deaths from jumping off the 30th floor of a building.

6 posted on 12/28/2009 6:13:07 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: LibLieSlayer

Some analysts that I’ve heard over the past six months predicted a correction in the spring (2010). If we only had a crystal ball....

“A false recovery....”
“A market correction of more than 10%...”
“A decline led by the next wave of real estate....”

There does seem to be concensus that something is about to drop.


7 posted on 12/28/2009 6:13:59 AM PST by RacerXSpeedRacer (Our elected officials appear to have failed us.)
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To: perchprism; LomanBill; JDoutrider; tired1; Maine Mariner; demsux; April Lexington; Marty62; ...

ping not my article but should note and here is related story

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091227/ap_on_bi_ge/us_markets_sugar_high;_ylt=ArYaC2hS7k9cVXE1M5M.Gx2s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNwbHNrNmtwBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkxMjI3L3VzX21hcmtldHNfc3VnYXJfaGlnaARjY29kZQNtb3N0cG9wdWxhcgRjcG9zAzUEcG9zAzIEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawNzdG9ja3NoaWdoZXI-


8 posted on 12/28/2009 6:47:02 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: John.Galt2012

For what it’s worth, my investment guy, a Rep with great academics (former USAF pilot) expects inflation and for stocks (and hard assets) to go up. He says buy. In the course of one day, we can read every sort of opinion here - boom to doom and gloom. Is the answer to stop reading?


9 posted on 12/28/2009 6:49:45 AM PST by uscabjd
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To: Bean Counter
"Only 10%?? I think this fellow is wildly (and close to irrationally) optimistic....to put it politely..."

I'm still waiting for the October crash that we all expected. So....

10 posted on 12/28/2009 6:59:26 AM PST by blam
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To: John.Galt2012

I highly doubt that unemployment will be 8% a year from now
(unless they flat-out cook the books, or create the largest Government Busywork Makejobs program in all of human history)


11 posted on 12/28/2009 7:00:56 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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This will do it.

China On The Verge Of A Great Crash And Its Impact On Crude Oil Price

12 posted on 12/28/2009 7:02:17 AM PST by blam
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To: John.Galt2012
Here's Karl Denninger discussing the unknown "buyers" of the bonds supporting the obama spending.
13 posted on 12/28/2009 7:14:41 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: LibLieSlayer

The libs have been ranting for years that the world’s liberal democracies have higher social spending. Yet they failed to notice that those same liberal democracies also had higher persistent unemployment rates. Now that they are getting their wish for the US, why would anybody think persistent US unemployment would differ from the liberal democracies.

The next Republican presidential candidate should campaign on removing forward US deployments in Europe especially, and across the world. US troops should be about protecting US interests. The navy should defend only US flagged shippers. The US should withdraw from financing and participating in UN sponsored military interventions.


14 posted on 12/28/2009 7:22:09 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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Thanks for the Denninger post. That's something I've been wondering about myself. I notice the 10 year T bond as been creeping up (int. wise)in the last week or so.
15 posted on 12/28/2009 7:25:27 AM PST by nomorelurker
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To: John.Galt2012

Bump for “I’ll believe it when I see it.” reference.


16 posted on 12/28/2009 7:34:43 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
I agree with everything but projecting our Military Power... we need to realize that we are not only in a war against the caliphate but that we are still locked in a five way cold war... (US vs iran, islam, china and russia) the cold war did not end... it just took a breather so that the communists and their allies of necessity could regroup and strengthen themselves... and this is why Defense and Space must be a top priority. Domestic spending will have to be made more efficient and real cuts must be made in lbj's great society. Cut ALL Federal spending except Defense and Space and increase Defense and Space spending... get serious about the 21st Century before we no longer own it.

We need real tax reform and tax cuts in capital gains and income... we need to do what works in rebuilding our economy so that we can be secure in continuing to be the baddest sob in the valley... for if America ever fails to have the power to protect the Tree of Liberty, the commies and the muzzies will cut her into kindling.

The NUMBER ONE responsibility for the Fed is providing for the “common defense”. It has been curtailed and injured badly under hussein and we need to become proactive in killing all terrorists and use whatever force is necessary... no more PC bullsh!t! We need to return to "you are either with us... or against us"... and this time stick to what we say!

LLS

17 posted on 12/28/2009 8:34:50 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I don’t disagree with you except in the respect that our scattershot defense policy has us protecting the world’s social democracies so they are able to divert erstwhile defense monies toward social spending. I want those liberal democracies to shoulder the entire burden of protecting their own populations so our people are freed from the burden of protecting a people who will not protect themselves.


18 posted on 12/28/2009 9:02:08 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Well then... we agree... but we need to keep some bases in EU for foward deployment and resupply... hell we need to OWN the world... not rent it.

LLS


19 posted on 12/29/2009 5:30:41 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: John.Galt2012
If I'm not mistaken, I heard that this guy was responsible or something for cratering Harvard’s endowment fund or something. Then, or something, he shows up at PIMCO. It proves the theory that some people can circulate in the upper levels for quite some time... Who would believe a word this guy says? And, while I'm ranting, that Gross guy is creepy to listen to.
20 posted on 12/29/2009 8:57:10 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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