Posted on 12/27/2009 10:55:42 AM PST by kristinn
On November 19th, Rush Limbaugh caused a stir when he mentioned PrisonPlanet.com on his radio show and linked to them on his website, touting their article 'With Hurricanes At Thirty Year Low, Gore Turns To Photoshop'.
By the end of the day, though, Limbaugh or his handlers had tried to erase all signs of the endorsement, as Paul Joseph Watson pointed out in his article Rush Limbaugh Censors Mention Of Prison Planet From His Own Archives. Watson noted "Any links to the Prison Planet.com story, which were prominently featured all over Limbaughs website, have also been deleted and replaced with a similar story by Newsbusters, a Neo-Con news website. What caused Limbaugh to order the material removed? Our guess is that he was probably bombarded with e mails from the legions of virulently retarded Neo-Cons that make up the audience of phony right-wing websites like Free Republic, on which all Alex Jones material is aggressively banned".
In the fourth hour of his November 20th radio show, Alex Jones covered the issue, playing clips and showing screenshots indictaing Limbaugh's duplicity. Paul Joseph Watson, author of both articles, appeared on air to discuss the issue:
Watson: "He's even edited his own trancript to take out the part where he says prisonplanet.com .. So I think he probably, him or the people who run his website started getting a ton of emails yesterday afternoon from these FreeRepublic type neocons who really hate our guts; and any Alex Jones material is aggressively banned from FreeRepublic and those kind of websites. And he just probably got a lot of emails and eventually just removed it; and it's gone it's memory holed."
Jones: "But see all FreeRepublic and Rush Limbaugh and people are doing by being neocons is making themselves obsolete and not even pertinent in the debate. I mean Limbaugh and others are still saying there's no world government, when it's openly being announced. All we're doing is covering what's really happening. and we don't want to be enemies with any of these people, and we understand they're part of the fake right wing, you know, that has to keep conservatives and libertarians on the reservation, on their plantation. But we're here to bring liberty we're here to unlock minds. And we're here to expose the fact that our Republic is falling and imploding. And I want to encourage Rush Limbaugh listeners and supporters to come find the real deal here.
"I mean we're no compromise for this country and freedom and the constitution and the Bill of rights. and we're not gonna attack Ron Paul and stab him in the back. We're the real deal. And dont allow yourself to be co-opted by Rush Limbaugh..."
The Austin, Texas radio host ended the hour by calling out Limbaugh and other fake right-wingers.
Jones: "We don't need you to link to us Rush Limbaugh. You understand that? You're the old fake conservative dinosaur. We are the future.I've financed this whole thing with my listeners. I have no big corporations supporting me. I've built all this with the support. You see Rush Limbaugh making films every 6 months? You see Rush Limbaugh having the number one videos online over and over and over again? No. He had the military industrial complex go give him 600 radio stations. He's hooked up with the CIA on record.
"So go ahead Limbaugh, keep acting like youre the real patriot, and continue; Hey I think its good you're starting to go further. But we're forcing him to go further. This guy all these decades, twenty years has been denying new world order, denying global government. It was his job to keep you asleep while all this was being built. And now hes trying to take on some of our political coloration to stay relevant, okay. We're the future Limbaugh, and you know it and Glenn Beck knows it. And if you want to be the future, wake up and become a patriot. But you cant do that; you can just act like it enough to fool people because you're a creature of the new world order. thanks for the plug, Rush".
In June 2006 Limbaugh, who in recent years has had a gaggle of neocon government-apologist imitators join him on the talk show circuit, was detained at a Florida airport with an illegal Viagra prescription, after returning from a trip to the Dominican Republic.
Hannity, meanwhile, told actor Chuck Norris that Ron Paul is nuts, then a few weeks later called Ron Paul supporters extremists and said that we wouldn't have free speech if it weren't for the "military industrial complex".
Glenn Beck, who was touted by Sarah Palin as a possible running mate if she were to run in 2012, has demonized Ron Paul and his supporters for years, even comparing them to terrorists, while at the same time aiming to attract a constitutional type audience.
. In 1999, Before garnering an reputation for being a staunch Republican apologist, Free Republic owner Jim Robinson had a surprisingly critical opinion about George Bush, who was then running for president:
"So, it doesn't matter if he snorted coke as a youth? It was a long time ago, a youthful in-discretion? Kinda like people who frequented sneakeasies during prohibition? Kind of a cute story, eh? Well, how about all the people whose lives have been destroyed by being arrested for the felony of drug possession? What about the millions of people who are rotting away in your filthy drug infested prisons at this very moment?
"Well, by God, if you people insist on electing another cokehead as President, you damned well better throw open all the prison cell doors and free every man, woman, and child you're holding on drug charges. And if you're gonna elect another drug felon as President, you'd better rescind each and every one of your unconstitutional drug laws now on the books, including all of your unconstitutional search and seizure laws, and your asset forfeiture laws, and your laws that enable your unconstitutional snooping into our bank accounts and cash transactions. Well, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. You people are sick! Conservatives my ass. You people are nothing but a bunch of non-thinking hypocrits! You're a shame and a disgrace to the Republic!
"And, I, for one, am tired of taking orders from cokeheads and felons! Elect another one and I'll tell you what. I'll be ready for war! It'll be time to take up arms and run the filthy lying bastards out!" In 2004, Robsinson was questioned as to whether the quote attributed to him was legitimate, and replied in the affirmative: "Guilty as charged. It was a sarcastic reply to an absurd Wall Street Journal op ed piece that was promoting the idea that it doesn't matter if US presidents are illegal drug users. Naturally, I objected."
Occasionally a topic with Infowars content will make it to FreeRepublic such as this one about Obama Joker posters, yet ironically, with over 200 replies, doesn't seem to have one mention of Alex Jones, PrisonPlanet.com, or Infowars.com.
A whole host of internet discussion forums are available as alternatives, some of which have been started by posters who were either banned or left FreeRepublic voluntarily. Other liberty forums focus on libertarian ideology, news and were centered around Congresman Ron Paul's run for the presidency. Here is a partial list: http://www.strike-the-root.com/
http://www.lucianne.com/
http://www.democraticunderground.com/
http://www.originaldissent.com/
http://www.freedomunderground.org/
http://www.libertyforum.org/
http://www.libertypost.org/
http://libertysflame.com/
http://the-peoples-forum.com/
http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/
http://waronyou.com
http://OpEdNews.com
http://Freedom4um.com
http://dailypaul.com
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/
And of course, the classic libertarian site LewRockwell.com, which has my previous article at the top of their front page today.
Listen to the audio of the 11/20 Alex Jones clip below.
YouTube video of Alex Jones attacking Free Republic and Rush Limbaugh.
N doubt that there isn’t a writer in existence that I cannot find something they wrote that I will disagree with.
Likewise, there are some I mostly ignore that have positions I occasionally agree with.
But, when someone comes along and his main thrust is to weaken our National Defenses during a time we have been under attack for decades, he doesn’t get ignored, he and any who fall into his cult must be countered.
lets discuss what the man says and what he stands for
not who sent him some money
i sent money to Free Republic, i do it often
but i do not agree with everything Jim Rob says
and i am sure he does not agree with everything i say
so lets talk about issues and ideas
ok?
IBTZ??
Hey! watch it, buster. I resemble that remark! I'm not a neo-con. I'm a paleo-con, buster
He's a Manchurian Mole......
Yep, that's what they say about me, although the usually just short-hand it to "long-winded". But I know what they mean.
:-)
Hey, they don’t care. The crowd that uses the term “neo-con” as a pejorative would stick you on a boxcar bound for the death camps without taking all that good a look.
So we hanged the President of Iraq and kissed the butt of the King of Saudi Arabia. The irony and hypocrisy is not lost on the American Public. The trust factor has diminished among the people of this Nation toward their government...no matter which stripe it shows at a time.
When I joined this site in 1998...Nation Building was frowned upon and condemned as in the Balkins ect. There have been changes in the focus of FR over the years. More partisan politics and less conservative philosophy.
Now Jones has come out with criticism of Obama and he's been on the show just three times since January 2009, I believe. All three times for short segments (five minutes or so). One of the appearances was to be scolded by an angry Noory for making Obama look bad.
What's the big deal about Jones? He claimed (on C2CAM) that he feared Michelle Malkin and that's why he attacked her in Denver at the Democratic party convention. Jones was responding (on C2CAM) to criticism by people who did not like the way he confronted Ms Malkin.
They recommend DU over FR. You can’t make this stuff up.
Neocon: a conservative who doesn’t hate Jews.
PS: Original Dissent is a white racialist forum.
I never thought of ridiculing him until he went after Michelle Malkin and later tried to 'splain himself to Noory.
A search for, "alex jones" "michelle malkin" noory
finds utube videos of Jones confronting Malkin. I have dial-up and have not seen them. I did hear the audio on George Noory's CoastToCoastAM.
Noory scolded Jones for his behavior. This was shortly after the Dem convention in Denver. I listened to the show that night.
Prior to this I just listened to Jones go after Bush, he was a virtual co-host with Noory he was on so often. Jones always had one thing or another on Bush and the international secret groups pulling the strings.
But after Jones at first admitted that he had gone overboard with Malkin he wound up blaming her! -- virtually saying that she threatened him. He claimed that she was accompanied by a mob of thugs shouting threats at him.
More recently Noory got angry with Jones, who rarely appears on the show now that Bush is gone, because Jones had posted a bogus interview with Obama -- er excuse me, Noory insists that everyone call him President Obama.
The next night Jones was invited on the show to explain himself. He said that yes there should have been a disclaimer but technical problems truncated it. He also blamed "over work" then went back to blaming technical problems.
I got no use for the guy anymore. Noory rarely mentions him now that Jones is zeroing in on Ob.. er, President Obama.
I will suggest however that some of the stuff Jones comes up with could have merit.
Dear Rush,
Thank you for scrubbing the stench of prisonplanet from your website and archives.
Dear Jim Thompson,
Thank you for keeping FR free of stormfronters and black helicopters.
Now before any fellow FReeper thinks he has to angrily remind me that all of these people were preferable to the Communists--I agree! That's not the point, okay? The point is that none of these foreign palaeocon heroes were Jeffersonians, localists, minarchists, anarcho-capitalists, or libertarians. Not a one. Yet the same people/groups who oppose the very idea that the United States of America is a nation rather than a loose league of independent states regard these people as its heroes.
As a matter of fact, my beef isn't so much with the foreign dictators as with the hypocrites who apologize for them while saying the everyone who doesn't interpret the Constitution the same way Ron Paul does (and Alexander Hamilton, one of the men who was a member of the Convention that wrote the Constitution, obviously did not) is a "Communist who doesn't realize it."
Coming soon to your local American Opinion Bookstore: the Biography of Marshal Petain sold together with The State by Frederic Bastiat!
He’s a very confused soul but is motivated by a sincere sense of patriotism. He’s convinced that Malkin is part of the one world order cabal. I agree his behavior there was well into jackass territory but I don’t think he’s fundamentally a jackass.
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