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To: reaganaut

reaganaut said: You keep throwing out this accusation, thread after thread, even though there HAS been much discussion of Christian beliefs.

I ask: Okay, what Christian beliefs have been “discussed” on this thread other than Mormons are evil and need to be put in their place? Maybe I have missed that discussion somewhere along the way.

All I have seen is people telling me why I’m wrong, but not why they are right. I have seen some scriptures thrown out, but no discussion on them.

I patiently await a discussion of that genre, but I sure haven’t seen it in this thread.

Saying things like “I believe in Christ,” “the Bible is the word of God,” or “I have been saved” aren’t discussions, they’re just statements thrown out.

Show me scriptures from the Bible why you are right and explain how they support your position. All I have seen from you and those who support your position are “Mormons are bad,” “Mormon leaders are bad,” or “Here are a thousand verses from the Bible that says I’m right, but I won’t take the time to explain how they support my position to you, I’m too busy bashing Mormons right now.”


164 posted on 12/28/2009 8:13:18 AM PST by urroner
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To: urroner
 
Show me scriptures from the Bible why you are right and explain how they support your position.
 
 
Would you like the ones from the Old Testement about FALSE PROPHETS?
 
 

I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following:

“Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble Me no more on this matter.”

I was left thus, without being able to decide whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face. I believe the coming of the son of Man will not be any sooner than that time.

Joseph Smith, February, 1835



For verily this generation shall not all pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it, which cloud shall be even the glory of the Lord, which shall fill the house

Joseph Smith, 1831, D&C 84:5

(The Saints were expelled from Jackson County in late 1833, before they could make any progress on the temple. Despite their best efforts, they were unable to return to reclaim their lands.)



President Smith then stated that the meeting had been called, because God had commanded it; and it was made known to him by vision and by the Holy Spirit. . . . it was the will of God that they should be ordained to the ministry and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, for the coming of the Lord, which was nigh - even fifty six years should wind up the scene.
History of the Church, Vol. 2, page 182, February 14, 1835

(The above prophecy was given on Valentine’s Day, 1835. 56 years would place Jesus’ return on or before February 14, 1891)



...for to this day has the God of my fathers delivered me out of them all, and will deliver me from henceforth; for behold, and lo, I shall triumph over all my enemies, for the Lord God hath spoken it.

Joseph Smith, Doctrine and Covenants 127:2

(Contrary to his prophecy, Smith’s enemies stormed the Illinois jail where he was being held and shot and killed him.
Smith died on June 27, 1844, less than two years after he gave this prophecy.
The phrase “for the Lord God hath spoken it” officially qualifies Smiths’s statement as a prophecy according to the LDS organization.)


180 posted on 12/28/2009 10:03:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: urroner

I asked for questions, yet all I get from you is complaints.

Questions please, so that I may answer them.

However, I DO doubt your sincerity.


208 posted on 12/28/2009 3:15:45 PM PST by reaganaut (When we FACE UP to the Majesty of God, we will find ourselves FACE DOWN in Worship" - Matt Redman)
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