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US Plane Suspect 'a London Student'
This is London ^ | Saturday, December 26, 2009

Posted on 12/25/2009 7:17:19 PM PST by kristinn

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To: Gondring
Was it meant as incendiary, or a failure, I wonder. Richard Reid's was meant to be explosive, but it didn't succeed.

What, exactly, are you trying to say??!!?

(you are excused if you are drunk or otherwise impaired, but if you are sane and sober, I want to know more about your brain function)

201 posted on 12/26/2009 9:19:03 PM PST by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBSPHD( with clusters))
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To: kristinn

Abdul Farouk (Hot Pants) Abdulmutallab


202 posted on 12/26/2009 9:27:04 PM PST by chemicalman
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To: Genoa
I am telling you! And all other Freepers.

GIVE UP ON THE DOMESTIC U.S. MEDIA WHEN IT COMES TO STORIES WITH AN INTERNATIONAL ANGLE WHICH ALSO HAS A DIMENSION OF SOMETHING THEY POLITICALLY DO NOT WANT TO REPORT ON, SUCH AS ISLAMIC-ORIGINED TERRORISM.

They are rigged, controlled and self-censored, so much so it is one big joke. Particularly CNN.

They are journalistically worthless and devoid of value to me and others who want the truth and want it timely.

Let is create a Class A, fact-based, worldwide, citizen-based, grassroots, conservative, independent information-gathering, verification and dissemenation mechanism here on Free Republic (Jim's dream) to eventually compete with these numbskulls in the US MSM out of jaded, hopelessly liberal J-schools in the insular US.

203 posted on 12/27/2009 2:31:03 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Each contemptuous Senate Democrat is thinking: "Oh, it will all blow over by spring--they'll forget")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
U.S. counterterrorism officials told NBC News that, shortly after he was taken into custody, Abdulmutallab said he was working for al-Qaida and that he had been instructed to blow up the plane on approach to Detroit because it would likely produce the most casualties and collateral damage on the ground if the wreckage fell into a densely populated area.
204 posted on 12/27/2009 6:47:06 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: pctech; McGruff

Another issue with today’s flight 253.

Landed at Detrot Metro, people being de-planed on the runway, per WJR radio.

WTF is going on?


205 posted on 12/27/2009 11:34:41 AM PST by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: skeptoid

Please insert the words “was it” between “or” and “failure.”


206 posted on 12/27/2009 12:45:42 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: skeptoid

Please insert the words “was it” between “or” and “a failure.”


207 posted on 12/27/2009 12:46:08 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: BluH2o

That is coming from the terrorist himself. Yet Janet doesn’t seem to think there is an AQ connection. How does she know? The investigation has barely begun. For the first time in 9 years, I feel totally insecure. If explosives were smuggled onto a plane, how safe are we on commuter trains and subways? Just a matter of time....


208 posted on 12/27/2009 12:48:15 PM PST by jersey117
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To: Springman

I heard about this one as well. Apparently someone was holed up in a bathroom on the plane?


209 posted on 12/27/2009 3:07:11 PM PST by pctech
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To: pctech

So long at the nitric acid was well sealed, and the container clean, I don’t think the components of PETN would be detected by an explosives sniffer. I’m not especially familiar with the ones used at airports, I’d presume they’re intentionally made somewhat less sensitive than the ones at secure facilities (e.g. nuclear power plants) for the sake of avoiding too many false hits among the increased traffic.

If he was mixing up PETN, then he was making an explosive, as opposed to some sort of incendiary as it appeared earlier. Mixing up PETN is like mixing up nitroglycerine in a lot of ways. It would have been tricky to manage without starting a fire if done one way, and without getting some really bad burns in another way. Especially in the confines of an airplane’s bathroom. But this guy probably wouldn’t have minded some burns if they didn’t keep him from doing what he wanted.

The ease of coming up with too many ways to create mayhem is why I think it’s a mistake to rely heavily on end-point security in fighting terrorism. It’s not enough to just try to stop them when they try something. They need to be convinced that doing things like this will only do them and theirs harm, and that if they want to get something they want they’ll have to do it in a peaceful way, as the alternative is unthinkable.


210 posted on 12/27/2009 8:10:44 PM PST by saundby
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To: skeptoid

You had to scroll down to read..was this “red flags” now updated and confirmed:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2416704/posts


211 posted on 12/28/2009 7:15:05 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: pctech

On local talk radio, and in the Detroit News, there is a couple that was in the Airport, they claim that the underwear bomber had help from a well dressed Indian gentalman.

When he said he didn’t have a passport, the Indian said he was Sudan. They were sent to a supervicer.

Just read the artical in the paper, no link to give. Any chance you could go to www.detnews.com to see if it’s still there? BTW, can’t post anything from them, just a link. FR would get in trouble.


212 posted on 12/29/2009 3:39:06 PM PST by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: BluH2o

Nobody ever thought Al-Qaeda was composed of Einsteins.


213 posted on 12/29/2009 5:37:25 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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