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Avatar: the most expensive piece of anti-American propaganda ever made
Telegraph Blogs (U.K.) ^ | December 25, 2009 | Nile Gardiner

Posted on 12/25/2009 12:41:36 PM PST by Schnucki

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To: jackibutterfly

Almost every great work of art is created to work on multiple levels, including an “actual” story or theme and a subtext. This movie falls into that category. Writer James Cameron shows old school racist colors as well as extreme hypocrisy way in this admittedly visually spectacular film.

1. White man saves primitive species–PLEASE, James, not this pat Hollywood formula AGAIN. I know it makes money but give me a break–I threw up a little in my mouth when I saw this coming one more time.(p.s.–I’m white).

2. White man flips seamlessly between his white world and the more compelling primitive world (Cameron living vicariously through the Na’vi (NBA?), as he no doubt wishes that he, like many white libs, were black). OK man, got it, but the expiration date on that one was about 1989 and now it’s really starting to stink up the place.

3. I loved the makeup of the military defectors–a Latino dude, a handicapped white dude, two white academics, and a probable Lesbian. Man, I love that Democratic party! James, do you have any other paint by numbers coloring books you can share?

4. Closing scenes show almost every single bad human to be white men. Certainly no women, and few if any Latinos, Asians or Blacks. Hmmm.

5. Worst of all, the real story of the film is not the taking of the precious metal from the Na’vi, or about the taking of oil from Iraq, or about the stripping of the the rain forest. It’s about the James Cameron mining our uncertainties about race in order to make an insane amount of money. This kind of maneuver will blow up your emotional Hometree whether you realize it or not, and most people will never how completely they have been manipulated by this film.

One more point regarding race while I’m on a roll — I’m perplexed as to why people of all colors continue to beat white people up over the issue of slavery. Folks, the slave trade TODAY as perpetrated by Arabs and Africans against native Africans is ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE larger than the slave trade in the colonial U.S. African governments have been selling their own people across the world for centuries. MANY, MANY more slaves ended up in South American vs. North American. Don’t let your professors play you for a fool with their revisionist history as the world has been a nasty place for a long, long time and non-white faces have played a huge part in the nastiness.

I prefer to live in a post-racial world where I don’t really give a damn about anyone’s race. I don’t care if you are white, brown, green, black, purple or see-through, if you’re a good person I’m going to like you, and if not then I’ll be seeing you later.

That’s my take. Happy Holidays and God Bless.


41 posted on 12/26/2009 5:49:24 AM PST by Ken in San Jose
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To: Schnucki

Almost every great work of art is created to work on multiple levels, including an “actual” story or theme and a subtext. This movie falls into that category. Writer James Cameron shows old school racist colors as well as extreme hypocrisy way in this admittedly visually spectacular film.

1. White man saves primitive species–PLEASE, James, not this pat Hollywood formula AGAIN. I know it makes money but give me a break–I threw up a little in my mouth when I saw this coming one more time.(p.s.–I’m white).

2. White man flips seamlessly between his white world and the more compelling primitive world (Cameron living vicariously through the Na’vi (NBA?), as he no doubt wishes that he, like many white libs, were black). OK man, got it, but the expiration date on that one was about 1989 and now it’s really starting to stink up the place.

3. I loved the makeup of the military defectors–a Latino dude, a handicapped white dude, two white academics, and a probable Lesbian. Man, I love that Democratic party! James, do you have any other paint by numbers coloring books you can share?

4. Closing scenes show almost every single bad human to be white men. Certainly no women, and few if any Latinos, Asians or Blacks. Hmmm.

5. Worst of all, the real story of the film is not the taking of the precious metal from the Na’vi, or about the taking of oil from Iraq, or about the stripping of the the rain forest. It’s about the James Cameron mining our uncertainties about race in order to make an insane amount of money. This kind of maneuver will blow up your emotional Hometree whether you realize it or not, and most people will never how completely they have been manipulated by this film.

One more point regarding race while I’m on a roll — I’m perplexed as to why people of all colors continue to beat white people up over the issue of slavery. Folks, the slave trade TODAY as perpetrated by Arabs and Africans against native Africans is ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE larger than the slave trade in the colonial U.S. African governments have been selling their own people across the world for centuries. MANY, MANY more slaves ended up in South American vs. North American. Don’t let your professors play you for a fool with their revisionist history as the world has been a nasty place for a long, long time and non-white faces have played a huge part in the nastiness.

I prefer to live in a post-racial world where I don’t really give a damn about anyone’s race. I don’t care if you are white, brown, green, black, purple or see-through, if you’re a good person I’m going to like you, and if not then I’ll be seeing you later.

That’s my take. Happy Holidays and God Bless.


42 posted on 12/26/2009 5:49:34 AM PST by Ken in San Jose
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To: Ken in San Jose
Writing in the Weekly Standard, John Podhoretz wasn't overly impressed with the movie.
43 posted on 12/26/2009 8:04:28 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Ken in San Jose

Why did you write your post to me? I think you wrote to the wrong person. My only comment was to correct the person who misstated the title of the movie, The Blind Side - his post #2, mine #39.


44 posted on 12/26/2009 11:27:57 AM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: aruanan

In Cameron’s case, seeing Avatar, as apparently he did, as a way of criticizing the U.S. in its war on terror merely prostitutes the story and fails to offer any enlightenment about our own world.
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You are assuming that the story has an integrity apart from its purpose; I assume that the story is ab initio a whore and my perspective cannot prostitute it further.

But you are full of Christmas generosity of spirit, and I should follow your example, in humble thankfulness for good and intelligent friends. Happy Boxing Day!


45 posted on 12/26/2009 12:41:28 PM PST by mrreaganaut (Sticks and stones may break my bones, but lawyer jokes are actionable.)
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To: aruanan

Could not have said it better myself!


46 posted on 12/26/2009 2:38:29 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (Count the cost, freedom is not free.)
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To: aruanan

Without a doubt some people will watch Avatar and not pick up on the political allegory. Like I’d say most children would be unaware of it. But anyone familiar with politics and the Left will pick up on it — unless they willfully choose not to, or if they truly have a gaping lack of discernment.

Yeah, Magoo won, but he was pretty clueless about what was going on around him wouldn’t you say?


47 posted on 12/26/2009 3:43:03 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick; John 3_19-21
Without a doubt some people will watch Avatar and not pick up on the political allegory. Like I’d say most children would be unaware of it. But anyone familiar with politics and the Left will pick up on it — unless they willfully choose not to, or if they truly have a gaping lack of discernment.

Fortunately, I am able to ignore whatever biases Cameron had as his motivation for making the movie (and if he's had the idea for as long as he claims, it far, far antedated any involvement the U.S. had in Iraq). Besides, he may, absurdly so, think that casting his story in those terms would be a good marketing ploy to get those who hate both the U.S. and science fiction to come buy a ticket. And if the bias is so slight that it can be ignored except by those who are assiduous in their desire either to praise him or to mock him for it and is not visible to kids or to those without the political background, then it's really nothing much to worry about.

The actual story is good: a bunch of creeps move in to take something they want from those who they claim don't need it anyway and shouldn't miss it, from those who, at first, are also powerless to resist them and then get their butts kicked every which way from Sunday. Who cares if some of the bad guys are Americans, Soviets, Nazis, Japanese, or (sometime soon) the PRC? In the story as told they thoroughly deserved to get their asses kicked. Their degree of their perceived right to something possessed by someone else wasn't proportional to their degree of perceived need. If this were true, every robber would be justified. Who cares if some of the bad guys were humans? They still deserved to get rounded up and thrown off the planet.

So what if someone says, well, you can see similarities between our going into Iraq and their going into Pandora. Yes, but the differences, not the similarities, are what make the difference, otherwise humans would be boinking bonobos. Americans didn't go into Iraq to get oil. Other nations than the U.S. are getting the oil contracts. And there was no Supreme Leader of Pandora who was thumbing his nose at Earth and funding Na'vi suicide bombers to destroy terrestrial civilization. Anyone with just a little bit of knowledge of these things the history of the U.S. and allies in Iraq can make any claims by Cameron and such dorks look ridiculous. If anything, his gloss on his own movie is a godsend for being able to show that he should just shut up and make movies and leave such politicizing for folks like Michael Moore and CAIR who can't do anything but insanely bitch.

On a side note, I haven't heard anyone complain about the Hindu aspects of the movie.
48 posted on 12/26/2009 4:40:18 PM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
I can't believe I'm having to explain this to you.

We worry precisely because those without the background to discern will accept Cameron's message without knowing they're being fed a message, or without understanding his agenda. The concern isn't that Avatar will sway savvy conservatives (or savvy liberals for that matter); it's that it will sway unsavvy apolitical types and young people.

It's hard to believe anyone could think that propaganda is only effective when it is recognized as propaganda, when in fact it's just the opposite.

49 posted on 12/26/2009 5:52:58 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
We worry precisely because those without the background to discern will accept Cameron's message without knowing they're being fed a message, or without understanding his agenda.

And I can't believe that you say one thing and then another. Earlier you said that people without a background to detect his motives for making the film would see only a film. Now you're saying the exact opposite, that they will unconsciously adopt his beliefs about why he made the movie but which is not visible on the screen.

Your idea of a "message" infiltrating the minds of the susceptible is about on the level of Frank Garlock of Bob Jones University saying that because James Taylor is mentally ill those who listen to his music will become mentally ill through "sympathetic vibrations" induced in them by the music in the same way that a tuning fork is able induce another tuning fork to vibrate. Just because A says that B means C doesn't mean anyone seeing B will necessarily think or believe C if C is never explicitly a part of B.

The message seen in the film is that bad guys who try to screw over relatively powerless people get done in by their own badness in the end. This is an excellent moral message and one that has been made into films innumerable times. An outcome of the film that would have made it morally objectionable would have been the leadership of the Na'Vi agreeing to let the aliens blow up the home tree, get the ore, and basically gut his world for a sweet piece of the pie and a condo on one of the other moons.
50 posted on 12/26/2009 8:09:32 PM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Everyone sees the same movie. The difference is whether or not it’s viewed critically. Is this really so hard to understand?

A college freshmen reading Howard Zinn could take away something very different than, say, a Freeper. There is nothing magic about this.

The North Korean propaganda ministry is probably at this moment creating stories that portray righteous collectivist heroes crushing the wicked American imperialists. I take it you would be okay with this propaganda. After all, the bad guys are getting what they deserve, right?


51 posted on 12/27/2009 8:45:09 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: aruanan

Your patience is inspiring. To some people all is subjective allegory.


52 posted on 12/28/2009 10:15:11 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (Count the cost, freedom is not free.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
...director James Cameron has made it abundantly clear that the film is linked to both the war in Iraq and the War on Terror. In an interview with The Times he declared: "We went down a path that cost several hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives. I don't think the American people even know why it was done. So it's all about opening your eyes. We know what it feels like to launch the missiles. We don't know what it feels like for them to land on our home soil, not in America. I think there's a moral responsibility to understand that."

53 posted on 01/01/2010 1:25:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year!)
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