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Health Care: Now's the Hard Part
NY Post ^ | December 25, 2009 | MICHAEL TANNER

Posted on 12/25/2009 2:23:12 AM PST by Scanian

Harry Reid finally begged, cajoled and bribed enough votes to pass a health-care-reform bill through the Senate. But before Democrats break out the champagne, they should realize that the road to final passage hasn't gotten any easier.

The bill must now go to a conference committee to resolve significant differences between the House and Senate versions. And history shows that agreement is far from guaranteed.

In fact, just last year, a bill reforming the Indian Health Service died when the conference committee couldn't overcome its differences on abortion. Similarly, in 2007, bills dealing with issues as varied as campaign-finance reform, corporate pensions and closing tax loopholes passed both chambers but never became law.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conferencecommittee; house; obamacare; senate

1 posted on 12/25/2009 2:23:16 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

If it was such a wonderful gift to Americans who come it took billions of dollars in bribes to get enough votes to pass.


2 posted on 12/25/2009 2:24:14 AM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Scanian
Interestingly, this is posted right below an article that says: "Years after a wave of construction brought publicly financed stadiums costing billions of dollars to cities across the country, taxpayers are once again being asked to reach into their pockets. From New Jersey to Ohio to Arizona, the stadiums were sold as a key to redevelopment and as the only way to retain sports franchises. But the deals that were used to persuade taxpayers to finance their construction have in many cases backfired, the result of overly optimistic revenue assumptions and the recession."

I suspect that, unless free Americans are able to save the country from this socialism, we will see a similar critique in a decade: "Years after a wave of compassion brought publicly financed health care costing trillions of dollars to cities across the country, taxpayers are once again being asked to reach into their pockets. From New Jersey to Ohio to Arizona, the health plans were sold as a key to economic growth and as the only way to control costs. But the deals that were used to persuade taxpayers to finance their socialized health care have in many cases backfired, the result of overly optimistic cost assumptions and the recession."

The democrats know that these plans will fail, but they lie and then (at least in public) blame bad luck for yet another failure of Big Government.

3 posted on 12/25/2009 2:53:47 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Scanian

Obowma has 3 objectives in 4 years:

1) pass mandatory insurance healthcare (socialized med)

2) make illegal aliens..legal (who vote Dem)

3) disarm Americans

BONUS: cripple the economy

He passes # 1, regardless if the Dems lose in 2010 is a victory for The Idiot from Kenya. Then they go to objectove 2 so the more the GOP holds them in committees and courts, Nov 2010 is just 11 months away..


4 posted on 12/25/2009 3:07:53 AM PST by max americana (i)
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To: Scanian
The bill must now go to a conference committee to resolve significant differences between the House and Senate versions. And history shows that agreement is far from guaranteed.

From its outset, the tenacity of this bill has been underestimated, so calming voices saying don't worry are cause for concern.

"Conference Committee" will likely be Reid, Pelosi, plus a couple others on ad hoc basis, behind closed doors, hammering out the, "I need $XXX million for representative X's district so he will go along with that amendment." and "Senator X will hold it up unless she gets $XX billion for her state."

Then it will be trotted out about an hour or two before the scheduled vote (either very early a.m., or very late p.m.), and the simple majority will prevail.

Democracy in action -- what's the 'big deal'? < /sarc>

5 posted on 12/25/2009 3:27:04 AM PST by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: Scanian

This is all so much BS. The dems control government. They will get their bill. Get over it. Stop trying to hope away the future. The future is now. The Health Monstrosity is a reality. Accept it. Move forward. Forward to real organization and working for the defeat of rats in 2010. It’s our only hope. Pollyanna BS like this isn’t worth the bandwidth its printed on. This is garbage talk. I don’t even know what the writer’s motivation is. A kind of mental masturbation, maybe? I really don’t know. I can’t even speculate.


6 posted on 12/25/2009 3:40:49 AM PST by samtheman
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To: max americana
“2) make illegal aliens..legal (who vote Dem)”

It doesn't really matter if they're registered to vote or not. Illegal aliens count for apportionment. Ever wonder how many reps California would loose if they were not counted or sent home?

7 posted on 12/25/2009 4:13:17 AM PST by Red Dog #1
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To: Red Dog #1

....what conference committee..?....didn’t a Repub in the Senate object to forming a committee....so it goes to the house directly....?


8 posted on 12/25/2009 4:35:43 AM PST by spokeshave (Albore can uninvent the internet about as well as 0bama can unjump the shark)
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To: spokeshave
That's what I heard also, but if true the presstitutes don't seem to have picked up on it?

If true, though, it doesn't necessarily mean there can't be a conference committee. The resolution to create a conference committee usually passes by unanimous consent. If someone objects then the resolution, as I understand, must be broken into three parts...

1) The Senate rejects the House version of the bill
2) The Senate request of the House a conference committee
3) The Senate authorizes the appointment of conferees

...each individually debated and voted on. If objectors are determined, each element could consume up to three days. This means, if Dems decide they want their conference committee, it could take them a week or two when they return to session.

I hope this story is true. Every single day of delay is golden.

9 posted on 12/25/2009 5:45:51 AM PST by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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To: Stultis

That’s just more delay of the inevitable...

Now is the “hard part”...?? Puh-lease... the hard part was getting past a 41 vote filibuster.... and, they’ve done it.

They’ll conference... eventually.. and, put back in the public option, take out any abortion limitations, and restore the tax on wealthy people that Ben Nelson so vigorously opposed..

Nelson will be INDIGNANT!! And, he’ll vote ‘NO’ on the final bill.. along with Landrieu and a handfull of other Dem’s who have elections in 2010... but, it won’t matter. They don’t need 60 votes anymore... Nelson’s power is GONE.

Just 50.. that’s all.. and this article thinks NOW is the hard part??? pffftt...


10 posted on 12/25/2009 6:27:45 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: max americana

You can toss in killing off as many ornery geezers as possible. They are leading the charge against healthcare and are all prehistoric-thinking racists anyway, so who needs having them around?

Ration healthcare a la the UK and weed them out. The illegal aliens will make grateful and dependable replacements for them in the Dem coalition.


11 posted on 12/25/2009 8:08:11 AM PST by Scanian
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