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1 posted on 12/24/2009 9:28:42 PM PST by aquapub
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2 posted on 12/24/2009 9:32:07 PM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

The Declaration of Independence


3 posted on 12/24/2009 9:38:08 PM PST by Rocky (Obama's ego: The "I's" have it.)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b3Q89FZoY0



4 posted on 12/24/2009 9:45:11 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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I’m wondering what the end game is for people who want to take the country back to liberty and freedom.

Don’t get me wrong, I desire liberty and this present rush toward collectivism is an outrage.

But let’s say we win the battle of the political trenches and awaken to a renewed moment of freedom. Are we in it for the money and prosperity? The material gain? The ability to watch our big screens? What’s the long-term spiritual and moral benefit of that?

Unless we use freedom to make the world a better place for many, it seems to me even something as noble as conservatism can be found merely a crass alternative equal in futility to collectivism. We end up crashing into Solomon’s conclusion in Ecclesiastes 1.


5 posted on 12/24/2009 9:49:24 PM PST by lurk
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SO WHERE DO I SIGN UP?


6 posted on 12/24/2009 9:58:54 PM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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Bump for later reading


8 posted on 12/24/2009 10:06:23 PM PST by FrankR (obama was not an election, it was an INVASION of the United States.)
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Amen, brother. Awaiting orders.


11 posted on 12/24/2009 10:55:59 PM PST by rae4palin
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None of that seems overly drastic. Once they sign this health care socialist takeover....


13 posted on 12/24/2009 11:26:05 PM PST by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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5) Don’t buy anything that you won’t really need. Become more independent (manufacturing skills, food, exercise, energy, tools, repair skills, building skills, other technical skills, defense and security skills, leadership skills). Become nonpolitical, until we see good and moral men presented as candidates.


14 posted on 12/24/2009 11:39:48 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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And no violence, BTW. Violence, especially violence initiated by spoiled rotten people, is stupid in this scenario. Talk of such now is just talk anyway—stupid talk.


15 posted on 12/24/2009 11:41:57 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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organizing a disruptive demonstration, like a sit-in.

That is so 60s. Organizing a disruptive demonstration, like an armed insurrection would be much more satisfying. Note to Mainstream Media: Under the laws of war Propaganda arms of governemnts are legal military targets.

17 posted on 12/25/2009 4:37:44 AM PST by Feckless (Don't care where he was born. The oath I took said "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic".)
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I think the time for talking is over. We’ve had years of shouting, writing letters, faxes and email, millions upon millions of phone calls, a protest in DC that had millions, one web site after another, and even television networks supporting the people. How much more do they need to know before doing what we demand?? We even voted out the idiots in 1994 only to no real results. We deserve freedom and liberal in our lifetimes, not if they decide to do it. We must make them do it.

Civil disobedience needs to get physical. I mean, so far their response has been, “What are you going to do about it anyway? Get lost.”


22 posted on 12/25/2009 11:17:24 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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bump for later


23 posted on 12/25/2009 3:21:22 PM PST by free1977free
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
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While government creates 111 new federal bureaucracies and destroys the free market system that 84% of us are happy with, the politicians have exempted themselves from the rationed, inferior care the rest of us are left with. But they cannot exempt themselves from us.

As Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence, when government becomes adversarial to the people, it is both the right and the responsibility of the people to rise up and "alter or abolish" that government. Government gets its power from us.

It is time to step up and take back what is ours.

31 posted on 12/25/2009 11:05:08 PM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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Any federal version of health care is unconstitutional since Article1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care. The people are not bound by any unconstitutional act committed by Congress and are therefore not required to comply.


32 posted on 12/26/2009 4:12:38 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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.....3) Nullification. This is where states stand up for their 10th Amendment rights and declare that, since this law is blatantly unconstitutional, they refuse to acknowledge that it was even passed.......

This is already passed in Tennessee, I think and on reflection may make following a course like that in Oklahoma unnecessary

We still need lunch however


35 posted on 12/26/2009 4:48:08 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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