Posted on 12/24/2009 5:06:41 PM PST by Sneakyuser
Don't give up, there are six steps left...
(Excerpt) Read more at freedomslighthouse.com ...
House and Senate leaders meet to resolve differences between the bill passed by the House and the one passed by the Senate.
Step 7
House and Senate leaders appoint a conference committee of several members from each body to reconcile the two bills.
Important bills are frequently rewritten in conference, or killed because the conferees fail to settle their differences.
Meetings of the conference committee are often secret.
Step 8 Senators opposed to the bill may filibuster the motion to create a conference committee.
A cloture vote would be needed to stop the filibuster.
Step 9 If the conferees resolve their differences, they issue what is called a "conference report" -- the final version of the legislation.
Step 10 The conference report is debated in the House and in the Senate. It cannot be amended.
Step 11
Senators opposed to the conference report can filibuster it. A cloture vote would be needed to stop the filibuster.
Step 12
In the House, Republican members opposed to the conference report can offer a "motion to re-commit," essentially one last-chance vote to kill or amend the bill.
Step 13
Each chamber votes on approval of the conference report. If approved, the legislation goes to the president for his signature or veto.
er... eight steps.
My personal favorite part.
I’m stunned by this. I guess I thought that a conference committee was automatically appointed when legislation in differing forms has passed each house of Congress.
Good for Senator DeMint for having the guts to object and force the path of this healthcare monstrosity to change.
How does this square with step 8 listed above that says that objection to the conference can be overcome by a cloture vote? I’m confused on this.
Bump for later
thanks for posting
So lets follow this Bataan death march for ObamaCare. The Senate Bill is taken up for amendments. The liberals first off cobble an amendment with some form of public option. It passes the House barely again. FAIL...The Senate has already said it will not accept a bill with the Public Option, you lose Lieberman and others. Or the Public Option amendment fails and when the final bill ping pongs back from Senate the full House..FAIL the 60 liberals and other scared Dems plus the whole Republican caucus it gets beat soundly. Or an alternative but less likely way to FAIL is the Stupak gets added and the public option does not. In the Senate liberals like Boxer and others will not vote for it , cause it doesn’t accomplish what they want, as many babies dead as possible. Their is a dizzying array of permutations to FAIL so don’t give up folks. The easy part is actually over for the Dems.
Now it is Pelosi’s turn to bribe and threaten and bully those who may not like the bill. It worked for Reid.
Obama will even make appearances reading his teleprompter to force Dems to vote. He may even offer them jobs if they lose their elections in 2010.
objection to the conference can not be overturned. 1 senator can object and that is that. game over , next step , house of rep.
"Now any single Senator may raise a procedural objection — a point of order — against subject matter newly inserted by the conference committee without objecting to the rest of the bill. Proponents of the measure may move to waive the rule. The affirmative vote of 60 Senators is required to waive the rule. If the point of order is not waived and the Chair rules that the objection is well-founded, only the offending provision is stricken from the measure, and the Senate votes on sending the balance of the measure back to the House. (See Senate Rule XXVIII.)"
The 60 Dems will overrule. Reid will call motion out of order. The conference will convene as Reid wants.
wait a minute. do these new votes take 60 votes or just 51. my understanding is that reconciliation only takes 51.
which votes are 51 and which votes are 60.
all 51 votes will pass.
Is there a deadline?
don’t forget to add court challenges.
I believe it takes 60 if there are any major changes to the bill. I am not sure how it is decided what a major change is.
The number of steps is irrelevant. Any federal version of health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care. The people are not bound by any unconstitutional acts of Congress. Therefore the people need not comply with government run health care.
Pelosi has been instructed to notify the Party that they will jump on board without changes; then the modifications will come, drip by drip, until the final Socialized Medicine Plan is completed....
Oh boy, I sure hope so.
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