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The picture the Times has captioned as Sandra Day O'Connor looks like Olympia Snowe to me. O'Connor was appointed, but unprincipled judges like her exemplify the "politicians in robes" she decries.

Soros and other leftists don't like judicial elections, preferring instead that lawyers select them.

Soros, related groups really want judicial control

"Soros-funded groups still cling to the notion that judicial independence and integrity can only be assured by handing the selection of judges over to lawyer-based groups and committees. Democracy and elections are best left to the executive and legislative branches of government, they say.

Trust that lawyers will determine the best people to arbitrate over every minute detail of society that is now ultimately decided in court, they say. This is the way to establish judicial independence, they say.

And, if you feel differently from these groups, be ready to be labeled as an "attack on the judiciary." Free speech is great for Soros' groups, but not for anyone else.

These groups would never admit the need for legal reform, nor would they acknowledge that some judges are better than others. They would never acknowledge an even more dramatic thought that some judges might not be living up the high standards they've been trusted to uphold and maintain.

It's hypocrisy at its worst."

1 posted on 12/23/2009 5:45:15 PM PST by reaganaut1
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Judges would be better selected via a Lottery type system.


2 posted on 12/23/2009 5:47:44 PM PST by GraceG
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persuade states to choose judges on the basis of merit

Correction: Persuade states to choose judges on the basis of their committment to leftie dogma.

3 posted on 12/23/2009 5:48:14 PM PST by centurion316
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My first impression - bad idea.


4 posted on 12/23/2009 5:49:02 PM PST by skeeter
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SDO’C should have gone home when she retired. Instead, she took an office at the SC where (I think) she still hangs out in DC — meddling, meddling.


5 posted on 12/23/2009 5:50:14 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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Keep electing judges.


6 posted on 12/23/2009 5:52:06 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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If this misbegotten effort succeeds, the last vestige of accountability on the part of the judiciary will be gone. Make them stand for election and, if appointed, stand for retention!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
8 posted on 12/23/2009 5:53:38 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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Sandra Day O’Connor is a washed up old leftist Hag trying to somehow become relevant in her old age.


10 posted on 12/23/2009 5:57:30 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (HHHH)
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In Texas, my stepfather was pushed into becoming a county judge by the local community because during the years of his retirement they had come to value his judgement and fairness in county affairs as he kept being called upon to handle tax issues and construction with the new power plant and such things.

They elected him county judge and he had never worked in law, and he did not have a college degree, he did a great job, and kept their respect and loyalty.

One problem with law in America, is that we came to think that the lawyers are the experts and that the law belongs to them. The law belongs to the people, the lawyers should remain as hirelings within OUR legal system, not us remain as victims of THEIR legal system.


12 posted on 12/23/2009 5:58:38 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.)
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There is a reason we elect them, so they don’t become law makers.


15 posted on 12/23/2009 6:01:26 PM PST by dila813
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So the next battle is trust the lawyer and shoot the people vs trust the people and shoot the lawyers


19 posted on 12/23/2009 6:15:05 PM PST by tophat9000 (Obama has "Jumped The Shark" ...and fell in the shark tank)
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All judges should be elected.

Hell, at least half of them should be impeached!


20 posted on 12/23/2009 6:16:30 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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By doing this then judges become unaccountable in their selection and retention.
True Left philosophy.


21 posted on 12/23/2009 6:21:04 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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The current judiciary should be retained through the immersion system, used during the witch trials of the 16th and 17th centuries.

The judge being evaluated is forcibly submerged into a large tank or body of water.

If the judge is upstanding, he or she will remain submerged until drowned.

If the judge is corrupt, he or she will float to the surface to face execution.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

22 posted on 12/23/2009 6:25:14 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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I have a better idea:

Let’s make mandatory retirement at 70


23 posted on 12/23/2009 6:26:52 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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Oh, and stop the stupidity of picking justices on the basis of race or gender . . . or both.


24 posted on 12/23/2009 6:28:03 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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politicians in robes

Yeah, what we need is a new kind of aristocracy. :)
25 posted on 12/23/2009 6:29:05 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is the their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to
provide new guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated
injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them. (TARP, Stimulus, thuggery)

He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only. (who wrote the stimulus bill, what bipartisanship?)

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. (why does he leave the Whitehouse to go sign bills in other places & states...really...why does he do that?)

He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. (on the otherside, when has he called together Republicans to meet with him? He doesn’t...it is always just the democrats)

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the
conditions of new appropriations of lands. (immigration reform or lack there of sufficient to support migrations?)

He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.

He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. (What did she just propose?)

He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance. (Czars)

He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislatures. (ah..yes, the new interpol EX.)

He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to the civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation. (Copenhagen anyone?)

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states: (how about things like tax evasion or the Congressional Hearing that are not a court of law for banks, carmakers, oil companies, insurance companies...)

For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing taxes on us without our consent: (real close on this one ain’t we all)

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury: For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses: (new interpol EX has this potential)

For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these colonies:

For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments: (does this need explained)

For suspending our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. (oh yes, this started with the lights out act in the House during Aug. ‘08)

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty, and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation. (immigration, interpol EX.O.)

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions. (ACORN, SEIU)

In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be ruler of a free people. (yeah...those full mailboxes, emails, and dropped faxes)

Nor have we been wanting in attention to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the
circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too
have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must,therefore, acquiesce in the nesessity, which denounces our separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace
friends.


26 posted on 12/23/2009 6:31:16 PM PST by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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Anything o’connor is associated with should be viewed as a threat to the Republic.


27 posted on 12/23/2009 6:34:58 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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Election of judges has done a far better job of getting rid of dead wood. The last thing we need is a whole new class of entitled, impossible to fire government employees...

hh


28 posted on 12/23/2009 7:14:21 PM PST by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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Another anecdote comes to mind: a couple of decades ago, the California supreme court overturned EVERY death penalty case that came before them. By rotating their votes, none of the justices had voted to overturn every case, but every case was overturned, nonetheless. After a war of words between the governor (Wilson or Deukmajian), voters through out 3 or 4 justices, including Chief Justice Rose Bird. Retaking control of the state supreme court was quite a nice feeling, although I have lost track of what has happened since. In general, I vote to replace any judge that comes up for re-election or re-confirmation....

hh


29 posted on 12/23/2009 7:19:35 PM PST by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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