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To: kabar
You are deluded. The bill will be passed and it will be essentially the Senate version. We need to now concentrate on attacking it and responding to the Dem spin effort, which will do Goebbels proud

If you think the House is going to pass the Senate version, what is attacking it going to do?

If you think exposing the Bill for what they are will stop the House Democrats from supporting it, that makes sense.

If they are going to pass it no matter what it is done, then attacking the Bill is a meaningless waste of time.

The Senate version will not leave that Committee as is, not if it hopes to pass the House.

61 posted on 12/24/2009 4:16:29 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration
If you think the House is going to pass the Senate version, what is attacking it going to do?

We need to inform the public what is in it and what it portends for our future. Moreover, we need to frame the discussion in anticipation of a huge Dem propaganda effort to sell the bill prior to the midterms.

If you think exposing the Bill for what they are will stop the House Democrats from supporting it, that makes sense.

No, I realize that the Dems are not listening to the people. I have participated in numerous townhalls, tea parties, the 9/12 march on Washington, and the two follow-ups, written letters, sent faxes, and made telephone calls. We now need to make the Dems pay the consequences for their actions at the ballot box.

If they are going to pass it no matter what it is done, then attacking the Bill is a meaningless waste of time.

Not true for the reasons I cited. We need to inform the public and frame the issue. We must attack the Bill if we want to gain seats in 2010.

The Senate version will not leave that Committee as is, not if it hopes to pass the House.

It will not be changed appreciably in conference because the Senate is the more difficult House for the Dems to pass it. Pelosi will push it thru the House using her huge majority.

67 posted on 12/24/2009 9:12:44 PM PST by kabar
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