Posted on 12/22/2009 9:40:20 PM PST by smokingfrog
The polls have been clear for quite some time: By a substantial margin, Americans oppose the efforts of Barack Obama and Congressional Democrats to enact a massive overhaul of the U.S. healthcare system, one that would greatly expand the federal governments role.
Significantly, the Presidents deeply held positions on healthcare were derived largely from the influence of a politically aggressive group of longtime Marxists whose worldviews were consistent with those Obama had already developed from other radical influences in his life. But before we examine who those particular Marxists were, let us establish, with certainty, what Obamas long-term objectives for healthcare actually are.
As an Illinois state senator in 2003, Obama unambiguously told an AFL-CIO conference:
I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer, universal healthcare [plan] . Thats what Id like to see.
In a single-payer system, a government-run organization would manage the healthcare of every man, woman, and child in the United Statescollecting all related fees and paying out all related costs.
At an SEIU Health Care Forum on March 24, 2007, Obama sang the same tunethough this time he conceded that the attainment of his ultimate vision might require a gradual, incremental approach:
Theres going to be, potentially, some transition process. I can envision a decade out, or 15 years out, or 20 years out
In the summer of 2008, when a campaign audience member asked him to comment on single-payer healthcare, Obama candidly replied:
If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system.
Earlier this year, however, the Presidentrecognizing the American publics opposition to such a system, as reflected in every reputable opinion pollmade a calculated political move to withdraw the single-payer option from the bargaining table.
(Excerpt) Read more at frontpagemag.com ...
Barack Obama did not conceive of socialized medicine on his own. His acceptance of such a system was cultivated and nurtured by the same types of Marxist revolutionaries with whom he has surrounded himself throughout his entire adult life and who are now shaping the major policy agendas of his administration.
Yep!
He’s quite frankly not smart enough to come up with 99.99999999% of the things he’s supportive of. A tool. A mere tool.
That was his promise.
yo, commie ping
Exactly. He’s worse than then the Clintons for taking credit and that’s hard to do. Of course, Booba could be his mentor.
Okay, lets keep the pressure on - especially Nelson. The governor and people of Nebraska are really giving it to him. Lets add fuel to the fire! Let him know we are not only sick of the corruption of which he is chief benefactor, but we will also be cheering for the Cornhuskers to lose big to the Arizona Wildcats in their upcoming bowl game!
Nelson
bennelson.senate.gov
Phone: (402) 441-4600
Fax: (202) 228-0012
Webb
http://webb.senate.gov
Phone: 202-224-4024
Fax: 202-228-6363
Landrieu
http://landrieu.senate.gov
Phone: (202)224-5824
Fax:(202) 224-9735
Lincoln
http://lincoln.senate.gov
(202) 224-4843
Fax (202) 228-1371
Bayh
http://bayh.senate.gov
Phone: (202) 224-5623
Fax: (202) 228-1377
Lieberman
http://lieberman.senate.gov
Phone: 202.224.4041
Fax: 202.224.9750
The Communists Behind Obamas Health Care Goals
Barack Obama did not conceive of socialized medicine on his own. His acceptance of such a system was cultivated and nurtured by the same types of Marxist revolutionaries with whom he has surrounded himself throughout his entire adult life and who are now shaping the major policy agendas of his administration.
Does he know anybody that ain’t a commie/crook/moozzi ?...
Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."
That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?
Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.
Weiners view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.
Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.
TITLE IQUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393
So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."
HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.
I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.
Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim DunkinAnother Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right
Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal
To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right
OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH
Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy
Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)
If you ever hear of one post a thread about it in Breaking News, send a link to Drudge, Beck, Limbaugh, Levin, your tenth cousin on your mother's side, Vladimir Putin, ...
Oh, heck, let's get serious. You have about as much chance of breaking that story as you do of proving the "shooter on the grassy knoll" theory. ;^)
LOL,,,Roger Dat!,,,
I don’t think the First Dawg counts...;0)
No, that’s a nice dog. It was Shanghaied anyway. No blame there.
If this approval of communist medicine passes, the senators who wind up voting for this will go down in U.S. history by name as corrupt and fools - assuming anyone will still be allowed to write uncensored history. Posterity will know at at least through an underground tradition that these morally bankrupt Democrat senators could easily have stopped this disaster from happening.
Communism should be against the law.
ya ....
Go back! Turn around and return to your point of origin. Proceed no further, you are not authorized for this information.
Warnung!
Do you want to be demonized for all history like Sen. McCarthy? Do you want to be marginalized like Glenn Beck? Stay away from this reality, your reputation depends on it. If you trespass this taboo you will count yourself lucky to be as hated as Whittaker Chambers.
You have been warned, if you proceed beyond this point may God have mercy on your soul because you will find no respite on this earth from the demons who are abroad in our land.
Beware, you are in the land of Cultural Marxism.
The Senate has just voted its version of healthcare reform. A bill which every senator who voted for it knows full well is adamantly opposed by the great majority of his countrymen. He has voted for a bill in excess of 2000 pages whose contents are largely unknown to him. For example, the bill contains a provision which purports to preserve it from ordinary amendment by majority vote, an affront to democracy probably known only to Harry Reid and his intimate henchman in the Senate. But every senator who voted for this bill does know that his constituents are almost frantic in their opposition to it, that they have vociferously exercised their constitutional right to petition their government, they have even gone into the streets against it. Every Democrat in the Senate plus one independent and one socialist , contrary to the ideal represented by their name, voted to frustrate American democracy. Why?
We now learn from this article that one can take a grease pencil and draw a straight line from communist agitators to the passage of this bill. A straight line that will run right through The Young Communist League, the Communist Party, the Bethune Club, Dr. Quentin Young, Mao Zedong, the New American Movement, Bill Ayres, Saul Alinsky, the Health and Medicine Policy Research Group, Democratic Socialists of America, the Socialist International, Physicians for a National Health Program (PNHP), the Weather Underground, Students for a Democratic Society, Harvard University, the Illinois Communist Party, Healthcare-NOW!, Global Exchange, Code Pink for Peace, Iraq Occupation Watch, and Interreligious Foundation for Community Organization, to name only those organizations collected for inspection in this article. I would add one more name not found in the article: The Frankfurt School.
The grease pencil line ascends to its summit in the very figure of the President of the United States of America himself.
This string of anti-democratic front groups have succeeded in imposing upon unsuspecting Americans one of the most treacherous and, frankly, anti-American intrusions into our liberty, no, they have actually intruded into our sacred, physical bodies. Why has no reputable media source exposed these connections to alert us to the sort of people who have influence over not only our president and our legislators but very soon now over our very bodies?
How is it that it has now become respectable, indeed politically correct, to apologize and rationalize the flatly antidemocratic health care "reform" and disreputable, absolutely taboo to connect the dots, Glenn Beck style, from the Communist Party to Barack Obama to this abominable healthcare bill? How is it that democracy is marginalized and socialism exalted? How did the world get stood on its head? Why has the media not raised the alarm? Why is the media devoted its time borking those who do connect the dots?
I wish the problem were only the media but I fear it goes much deeper than that.
We are in a place in America today in which virtually every institution has been co-opted by the left. The infiltration is broad and deep and not one major institution has escaped. Our great universities, our teaching methods down through kindergarten, our great charitable foundations, our courts and the guilds such as the American Bar Association associated with the courts, the establishment churches, like the United Church of Christ, the Girl Scouts, the League of Women Voters, Hollywood, the publishing industry, the advertising industry. This list is by no means complete and it is growing daily under the predacious appetite of the Obama administration which has swallowed whole our industries such as automobile, insurance, banking. We see how the Obama administration has co-opted the American Medical Association and AARP.
If the problem were just the media we could hope for a solution coming of new technology. But I think the problem goes back to even before the Alinsky School to The Frankfurt School which was the precursor to the cultural subversion which has come to America and which found expression in the Alinsky School and political consummation in the election of Barack Obama. It is not by accident that all these institutions have fallen into the hands of the left. The left has generated a new eschatology, a whole new way of thinking, which rejects the logic and and culture that was the common experience in America at least through the Eisenhower administration.
The Frankfurt school was explicitly created to undermine those institutions which tended to hinder the sought after triumph of communism. These included the nation state, the church, the family, and the "liberal" tradition in education. So they devised means to undermine patriotism and combine that with wholesale immigration as just a couple of methods of undermining the nation state. They assaulted the churches and made expressions of Christianity in the public square illegal. To undermine the family, they belittled the father labeling him "authoritarian," derided paternalism, and encouraged abortion. They have had unimagined success in undermining our school system from kindergarten to postgraduate work. But these instances are merely the symptoms and the venues of the dirty work.
The main problem that comes out of The Frankfurt School is that it changes the way we think. If one legitimatizes relativism then one begins to talk about George Bush is the moral equivalent of Hitler. If one says that there is no such thing as historical reality, one has destroyed the underpinnings of civilization. If one espouses and sells a "critical theory" one has made all other forms of analysis except downright cynicism look naïve and unworthy. The examples of how the The Frankfurt School "deconstructed" our epistemology are truly frightening.
So the media behaves the way it does because that's the way it thinks and it thinks that way because that is the way it has been brought up. And all of this goes back To the Frankfurt School.
We are in a world in which good is called evil and evil is called good; where that which is undemocratic is called Democratic; that which is statist is called populist; that which increases the debt is called a bent curve; that which is collectivist is called freedom; and that which is communist is called by any other name, and God help those who deviate. We cannot call a thing by its right name because we are lost in cynicism, relativism, and cultural Marxism. We have abandoned our language with our values. Our representatives in a representative democracy no longer represent the people. We have abandoned democracy in its truest sense because we have swapped reason for ideology.
We are at a crisis in the moment because of the person of Barack Obama. We must bend every effort to prevent him from achieving the ultimate victory sought by The Frankfurt School and its disciples, Saul Alinsky, William Ayers, and the rest. But if we survive this crisis we must as patriotic conservatives undertake the restoration of "liberal" common sense and biblical morality to our culture. That means we have to change the way people think, the way they see the world, their whole value system. That is what has been done to us and if we do not undo it we will always be one election away from the next Barack Obama.
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