Posted on 12/22/2009 6:38:39 PM PST by TornadoAlley3
Wonder if Kalifornia will follow next? sarcasm!!
WOW! You already have the two best US Senators and now this!!!
I’m so proud and happy for Oklahoma!
I’m thinking, and it could be incorrect, that what states that pass legislation like this are trying to do is set up a Constitutional showdown with congress.
For too long congress has overstepped its Constitutional bounds and the states have rolled over and over again (thank the idiots who gave us the 17th amendment for this). Now states are begining to feel their oats. The direct conflict with these state laws and those involving intrastate guns could reset the bounds on congress.
Ping.
Huck, I think your post has merit. I still would like to see this bogus lump of coal fought tooth and nail every step of the way. Has SS and Medicare been deemed Constitutional on challenge?
Do they comply with the 10th Amendment?
What is the 10th Amendment supposed to block, if not this?
“We know we belong to the land
And the land we belong to is grand!
And when we say
Yeeow! Aye-yip-aye-yo-ee-ay!
We’re only sayin’
You’re doin’ fine, Oklahoma!
Oklahoma
O.K. L - A - H - O - M - A
OKLAHOMA!
Yeeow!”
From a New York Stater.
SS was found constitutional in a very controvesial manner. It was after FDR threatened to pack the Supreme Court with more Justices to favor his socialist programs. A switch in time saved nine.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/attarian7.html
I think a lot of this legislation at the state level is setting up a grand Constitutional show-down - as it should. I don’t buy the argument that it won’t do any good. It will show the FEDS that there is massive resistance at the state level and a state is willing to spit in their faces — and I don’t think OK will be the only state to do this as more and more people will scream at the state level when this mess starts affecting their care. The state officials will hear it first...
I’m so proud of my state!
I cannot wait to vote on this.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
It begs the question (in the original sense of the expression.) What are the powers "not delegated to the United States by the Constitution"? Without an answer to that question, the entire statement is completely meaningless. It's missing an input.
And so there we are again. Who gets to decide? If Congress passes it, they must think it's Constitutional, or at least they're willing to make the case or invent one. If the president signs it, ditto that. If the people elect and re-elect such people, they apparantly are not concerned. And so you're back to the SCOTUS, the last resort, from which there is no appeal.
So in effect, what the 10th amendment REALLY means is this:
Whatever powers the national government doesn't claim for itself, the states and the people can have.
In practice, that's exactly what it means. It's worthless. The 10th amendment was basically written by the antifederalists, who opposed the Constitution, or at best were resigned to it, but sought to make it more secure. But the 10th amendment isn't even on the level of duct tape. I don't fault them for trying. But the battle was already lost.
There’s a dance we do in Oklahoma
A dnace like you’ve never seen
Sit back and we’re gonna show ya
How to do that Oklahoma swing!
A noble effort but if the federal insurance bill passes it will destroy health care everywhere. The infrastructure necessary to maintain health care as we know it will be completely dismantled from within.
Most if not all of the Health Care Bill is unconstitutional. Reread the clause that you cited.
Ug. Thanks, I think. ;-)
Need to ask my Barton what he intends to do.
I agree that we need to do everything and try everything but the bottom line remains... We the people need to take back our government and time is running out.
If we fail to reverse course drastically in November it will probably be too late. The news covers all kinds of stories that are outrageous in principle but meaningless next to the cancer of debt and spending. We are almost a dead man walking and the numbers are beyond comprehension.
Dang, its a big state with lots of room,
but can it hold an extra 100 million people?
I’m packing my bags today and bringing my family and my stethoscope with me.
Go Boomer Sooner
Maybe this will be the rallying state for the soon to come RE - BELL - ONION.
Finally someone with some backbone!
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