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Health Care Bill - Referendum? (vanity)
December 22, 2009 | Sopater

Posted on 12/22/2009 9:03:17 AM PST by Sopater

Sorry for the vanity post, but based on the current polling of the American people, is a referendum to repeal the healthcare bill a viable option? I haven't heard this discussed yet anywhere.


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KEYWORDS: badlaws; healthcare; obamacare
What else can we do?
1 posted on 12/22/2009 9:03:18 AM PST by Sopater
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To: Sopater
There is no referendum in the Constitution (not that that old piece of parchment means anything to Congress). The only cure is to remove this pack of jackals next November and find a better pack of jackals.
2 posted on 12/22/2009 9:05:15 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Gore is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse. He rides an icy horse bringing cold wherever he goes.)
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To: Sopater

Fire all Democrats in the Senate!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 12/22/2009 9:05:17 AM PST by RC2
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To: Sopater

We can do NOTHING, neither can any future Congress. Reid included a proviso that says no future Congress can make any changes to this.
from managers amendment
“ “it shall not be in order in the senate or the house of representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection.”

We are pretty well screwed


4 posted on 12/22/2009 9:05:44 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: Sopater

Can someone tell me how 60 senators can pass a bill that would take 67 to repeal? Who do they think they are? Seems blatantly unwise!


5 posted on 12/22/2009 9:06:12 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Sopater

Can someone tell me how 60 senators can pass a bill that would take 67 to repeal? Who do they think they are? Seems blatantly unwise!


6 posted on 12/22/2009 9:06:14 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: RWGinger
“it shall not be in order in the senate or the house of representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection.”

Congress can pass and the President can sign into law the repeal of that very language. It means nothing, save for the arrogance of this Congress.

7 posted on 12/22/2009 9:09:05 AM PST by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: frithguild

ah but we would need a supermajority in both houses and a GOP president for this to happen.
that sadly is yeears away and in the meantime odumbo and dems are destroying this country

Plus for goodness sake this is outrageous and MSM should be shouting this on every newscast blog and site


8 posted on 12/22/2009 9:11:30 AM PST by RWGinger
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We can do NOTHING, neither can any future Congress

I want someone to drill down to the bottom of this provision IMMEDIATELY. If it's been described accurately, it is nothing short of a bloodless coup d'etat.

9 posted on 12/22/2009 9:12:46 AM PST by Claud
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To: Sopater

In theory, it can be repealed. But in practice, even if Repubs. take back both houses of Congress next November, they won’t have the 2/3 in both houses that they would need to overcome an Obama veto. Next chance would be 2012, if the country can survive that long.

States rights under the 10th Amendment might work, although I expect the states to roll over when their federal funding gets threatened.


10 posted on 12/22/2009 9:13:17 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: RWGinger

Are the details of this manager’s amendment outlined somewhere? I’d like to know more about this.


11 posted on 12/22/2009 9:18:17 AM PST by Sopater (I'm so sick of atheists shoving their religion in my face.)
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To: RWGinger
Reid included a proviso that says no future Congress can make any changes to this”

That just happen to be unconstitutional and illegal. As someone else pointed out, it's a basic, fundamental tenet of law that you can't pass a law and prevent future congresses from repealing it.
It has ZERO chance of standing a Supreme Court challenge.

12 posted on 12/22/2009 9:21:54 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Sopater

...already scheduled for Nov, 2010.


13 posted on 12/22/2009 9:34:38 AM PST by tentmaker
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To: Sopater

It’s viable in Switzerland, but not in the USA.


14 posted on 12/22/2009 9:55:23 AM PST by devere
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