[Man50D]

The bill on its face is unconstitutional regardless of the content since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care.

[ExTexasRedhead]

Can we mobilize a huge team of conservative lawyers to file suit against these thugs (US Congress) as a group and individually?

[djf]

The bill on its face is unconstitutional regardless of the content since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care.

And I believe there are two or three US Supreme Court decisions that specifically say that.

[olrtex]

“The bill on its face is unconstitutional regardless of the content since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care.”

I suspect it hurts us to take absurd positions like this. The bill may be unconstitutional; but if so, it is not because “Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care.” There are likely equal protection problems (the Nelson payoff, among others), and some of the bill likely stretches the interstate commerce clause farther than a moderate Supreme Court can accept.

If all the businesses in your area decided they would not do business with Christians, I doubt you would be saying that “Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate” discrimination based on religious principles (which it does not, of course).

By the way, I am convinced that the framers would say that Congress was never intended to have the power to enact Obamacare (or Social Security, for that matter). But, arguing for a Jeffersonian “strict interpretation” today is about as absurd as arguing that the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment should not ban ear cropping or branding.

[rcrngroup]

We keep getting screwed again & again. I have no illusion that the US Supreme Court will ever have so much as a hint of balls to overrule this legislation and RULE CHANGE as unconstitutional. WE NEED AMERICAN REVOLUTION II TO OVERTHROW THESE SOCIALIST BASTARDS & 0BOZO THE KENYAN COMMIE PIG AND TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK TO ITS CONSTIUTIONAL ROOTS & LAWS, AND TO RESTORE OUR FREEDOMS & LIBERTIES.

[R0CK3T]

Can they pass laws that require 2/3s majority to repeal of change them?

They so desire the Health Care Entitlement that they are willing to destroy the country to capture their long cherished dream.

I say we all enact Health Care for the Constitution and take these people OUT of office BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

This will not stand.

[MeanGreen2008]

The bill on its face is unconstitutional regardless of the content since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care.

I'm afraid the Interstate Commerce clause is an enumerated power that does grant Congress the power to do what they are doing. Do not count on the Constitutionality argument to win the day.

[Weirdad]

Exactly, thank you!

[SpaceBar]

The existence of a constitutional rule/provision that would allow congress to make a law unchallengeable for all time would be so absurdly counter to the spirit of our form of governance that it would be common knowledge to both constitutional scholars and laypeople alike. Therefore no such provision exists. It's that simple.