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The Weekly Standard ^ | 28 Dec 2009 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 12/21/2009 1:27:57 PM PST by AreaMan

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To: SuziQ

Really a very “deep” movie. Reviewers portrayed him as a racist who sees the light but I don’t think there was any racism there even toward the Hmong. His animosity toward the Hmong was really more about shame and pain over his past.

The other “racism” was simply the way many friends speak to friends or simple terms that were once used pretty commonly.


81 posted on 12/21/2009 3:38:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: printhead
“Un-ass that shi*. It’s only a flare.”

Ya, but if they'd had a certain Navy Lt. JG on board, he would have put in for a brace of Purple Hearts.

82 posted on 12/21/2009 3:53:13 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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To: brownsfan

Aka Dances with Smurfs...


83 posted on 12/21/2009 3:54:10 PM PST by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: AreaMan

Hollywood cries about the poor and homeless then spends half a billion dollars on a fantasy movie.

And they were successful in getting the tax lifted on plastic surgery. That’s the only thing they really cared about in the health care bill.


84 posted on 12/21/2009 3:56:48 PM PST by Terry Mross (It's not racist if it's true.)
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To: AreaMan

This film doesn’t hate any of those things but that’s beside the point. I was just taking the highest example to demonstrate that you were correct and was wondering what the logical response should be.


85 posted on 12/21/2009 4:29:10 PM PST by Borges
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To: Terry Mross

An enterprise like this employs thousands of people and stimulates the economy. What does the genre have to do with anything?


86 posted on 12/21/2009 4:30:35 PM PST by Borges
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To: PapaBear3625; Cicero
According to Reuters, Avatar's weekend is pretty mixed http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2412005/posts?page=66#66.

In addition, from revised article:

Cameron is going to make out like a bandit on this. He will definitely beat Oliver Stone for The 2009 MP Academy Special Leni Riefenstahl Award ("Oscar"). Oliver will come back next year with Wall Street 2.
87 posted on 12/21/2009 4:54:43 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Kieri
Cameron needed a villain so he fell back on the good ol’ “corporate military” standby...

I wouldn't call it 'fall back'. I have no doubt that 'production value' is top-notch ($300M can buy that) and visually stunning (40% "live", 60% CGI / motion capture) but thematically, this is merely a rehash of The Abyss (1989) (also written and directed by Cameron) of twenty years ago, only with an improved technology. It could be relatively subtle, but it's still evil military-industrial-corporate complex vs cute peaceful aliens with advanced technology.

For Cameron, it's not a fall back, it's a main theme and an "Aliens for peace vs America for war" meme.

88 posted on 12/21/2009 5:16:23 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Popman
LOL!

That is my second favorite animated (although the affect is so lifelike I don't understand why they didn't use the real actors) film.

Favorite, number one though, is "Finding Nemo".

89 posted on 12/21/2009 5:32:33 PM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Brett66

A MechWarrior movie? Put me down for a Summoner and a Masakari then.


90 posted on 12/21/2009 5:48:13 PM PST by Redcitizen (Zartan for President 2012)
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To: aruanan
"Do you have a problem with people of colour?"
91 posted on 12/21/2009 6:02:37 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. - Horace Walpole)
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To: AreaMan

I started watching the Russian subtitled version on the internet. It looked interesting, so we went to see it. In spite of the negativity towards it that we read here, we definitely enjoyed it. It was different. Sure I said in the first part; “He’s Lt Dunbar, and they put him in the future”, but it kept our attention for the 2.5 hours. The visual effects were great, when it comes out in DVD we’ll probably pick one up. I liked Blade Runner when it first came out, and still do, even though it wasn’t popular at the time. Even if Avatar was a rerun of a western plot, how many times have we’ve seen Agatha Christy’s 10 little Indians plot?


92 posted on 12/21/2009 6:09:58 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (This isn't my America any more, where is Mrs Cleaver?)
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To: sonofagun; Popman
Beowulf is also IMAX 3D and using the same motion capture technology as Avatar, but it has a wonderful story, based on German and Old Norse legends.

It was beautiful to watch, even in 2D on DVD, and it had great dragons and all... I would think dragons without fiber-optic attachments are more realistic.

Makes me wonder what protocol was used in Avatars' FO attachments - FC, FCoE, FireWire, USB, UWB? BTW, with such advanced consciousness level, why didn't they use a variant of high speed wireless USB or pure telepathy?

93 posted on 12/21/2009 6:32:41 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
I started watching the Russian subtitled version on the internet.

Did the same. Don't think many realize there's pirated versions on the net. I don't read Russian so I couldn't understand the subtitles. Will also buy it later when it's heavily discounted.

94 posted on 12/21/2009 7:27:37 PM PST by roadcat
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To: kaboom

Go see it in IMAX if you can, the REAL 3D version shows compression of the 3d effects and some depth is lost. The IMAX was the best 3d I have ever seen. The also showed previews of upcoming 3d movies...the new shrek movie looks really funny. They also showed a preview of the real life NASA mission to repair the HUBBLE telescope....the real live images from space with the space shuttle in orbit was truly astounding in depth and quality.


95 posted on 12/21/2009 7:41:09 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: aruanan
You have to admit. At least he saw it.
96 posted on 12/21/2009 7:58:04 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Travis McGee
Read a book about their Afghan war called “The Forgotten War”.

Had to dig it up and read it again recently. Afghanistan is a game to us, but it was next door to them. Some cross border raids and such.

97 posted on 12/21/2009 8:03:36 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: AreaMan

Avatar will be available on DVD and Blu-ray by next April.


98 posted on 12/21/2009 8:04:54 PM PST by upchuck (The plan for 2010: Pray; Raise/conserve cash; Pray; Pay your debts; Pray; Stockpile; Buy ammo; VOTE!)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed. Gran Torino is an awesome movie. Eastwood is great.


99 posted on 12/21/2009 8:05:43 PM PST by upchuck (The plan for 2010: Pray; Raise/conserve cash; Pray; Pay your debts; Pray; Stockpile; Buy ammo; VOTE!)
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To: RJL
Yes, we could have Al Gore selling unobtainium futures at $Trillions of personal profit and bribing fellow Dems to invoke eminent domain. Then the closing shows the big government sending men with guns to take away their home tree and imprisoning or killing those who resist big government.

Your novel take reminded me that Alex Jones saw the movie and kinda reviewed it on his radio program on Sunday. Alex is so unpredictable, I can imagine him loving it or despising it. He came down against it for its anti-American military, anti-development message! First time I'd heard that angle!

To summarize and paraphrase, he said what the Corporation was doing was flat wrong, but at least they were being "honest" in their theft by gambling that if the Navi could beat them in their big land grab, they could keep it and toss 'em off the planet.

But he said the Global Eites and Al Gore-types would have been much worse than the Corporation. The Elites would have sent only Avatars to Pandora, ingratiated themselves to the natives, then play the Save the Environment/Save Pandora card by saying the Na'vi were hurting the planet! Yes! And that to save Eywa, all the natives would have to agree to move onto reservations!

Once that was accomplished, then the Elites would send down the military, and the dozers, and the processors to mine and refine Unobtainium for themselves and shoot any natives that left the reservations!

I admit, that was a plan that left my head swimming!

100 posted on 12/21/2009 8:21:48 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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