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Democrats’ Health Bill Passes Key Senate Vote
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34498942/ns/politics-health_care_reform/ ^ | December 20th 2009

Posted on 12/20/2009 10:28:04 PM PST by Steelfish

Democrats’ Health Bill Passes Key Senate Vote Republicans pledge to fight on despite losing early Monday

WASHINGTON - Senate Democrats’ health care overhaul passed a key test in a party-line vote early Monday, in a dramatic defeat for Republicans that put the legislation on track for Christmas-week passage.

In the run-up to the vote, the escalation in rhetoric was remarkable on both sides of an issue that has divided the two political parties for months.

"This process is not legislation. This process is corruption," said Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., referring to the last-minute flurry of dealmaking that enabled Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and the White House to lock in the 60 votes needed to approve the legislation.

Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island responded in near-Biblical terms. In a speech on the Senate floor, he said Republicans are embarked on a "no-holds barred mission of propaganda, obstruction and fear. ... There will be a reckoning. There will come a day of judgment about who was telling the truth."

First 60-vote test coming up Whatever else it was, the legislation represented the culmination of a year's work for Democrats, pressed by President Barack Obama to remake the nation's health care system.

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KEYWORDS: billofdeath; coburn; communismishere; healthcare; nevergiveup; timetofight
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To: Bulwyf

“I’ve noticed a lot of folks saying we’ll vote them out in 2010, and again in 2012”

- As someone who has lived in Ontario, I can attest to the rabidness of the liberals and just how radical they can become if we do not put a stop to this. And I too am perplexed at just how many freepers think “voting them out” is going to solve the problem. Vote Repub? I don’t think McCain would have done much differently than Obama. It simply would have been a slower death march. But we’d all get capped in the end anyway.

The time was last YEAR when the citizenry should have taken up arms. I fear it is too late, although I hope I am mistaken.


41 posted on 12/20/2009 11:20:32 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: Soothesayer9

I agree last year was the time to march.

There seems to be a lack of folks with fortitude and/or everyone is waiting for someone else to make the first move.

We’ll still be waiting for someone to make the first move when we’re behind the razorwire.


42 posted on 12/20/2009 11:24:48 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: hattend

So what does that make “FReeper” a euphemism for...?


43 posted on 12/20/2009 11:25:49 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Bulwyf

We’ll still be waiting for someone to make the first move when we’re behind the razorwire


It disgusts me when free people talk about being hereded into cars or put in camps. History has demonstrated for decades that the odds of survival in a totalitarian regime are insignificant. Resist.

Make the Nazis die for their country, as Patton famously said.


44 posted on 12/20/2009 11:33:53 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: DTogo

I don’t know... Revolutionary?

One if by land, two if by sea... Three if by Congress.


45 posted on 12/20/2009 11:36:31 PM PST by hattend (Once we had Reagan, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope. Now we have Obama, no Cash and no Hope)
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To: Steelfish

Bastard demoRAT traitors!!! I hate every one of them, including the dumb ass voters who voted for these scum, especially that rat commie bastard 0bozo!!! I hope & pray that every one of these bastards will roast in hell forever!!!


46 posted on 12/20/2009 11:38:51 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: Steelfish

GAME OVER.

To our founding fathers and those who care about America.

Would you like to try again? Please insert anther quarter.


47 posted on 12/20/2009 11:39:25 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Psalm 144
Civil strife is coming; probably civil war.
If you live in a city, it is coming there first.

I hope that is both a promise & a prediction. A violent overthrow of the socialist bastard traitors BEFORE this hellish health care debacle gets enacted is the only way we will ever be able to stop our plunge into socialist-fascist tyranny. I only hope that we have enough patriotic military officers & soldiers who will fight with us & for us. The commie pig 0bozo & the rest of the demoRAT socialists will not go down easily without a bloody violent fight. We have got to destroy the socialist demoRATs so badly that they will never resurrect their ugly commie socialist ideology or faces again!!!

American Revolution II needs to happen NOW!!!
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48 posted on 12/20/2009 11:44:24 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Game over??

More like, GAME ON!!

Defeat is not an option.

49 posted on 12/20/2009 11:46:22 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: hattend
I don’t know... Revolutionary?

:) Very likely.

50 posted on 12/20/2009 11:47:52 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: rcrngroup

It is a warning.

http://spectator.org/archives/2008/10/10/time-of-sifting-may-be-at-hand

Civil wars are never easy, never clean, never cheap, and seldom result in happy endings.

Sometimes though, they are necessary and inevitable.


51 posted on 12/20/2009 11:52:20 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: Sun

1/6 of our ecomomy and more. Destroying the entire free market health care system. Our innovations in drugs, procedures, equipment, research and developement, etc will be wiped out. GONE. Who will want to go into medicine just to become a gubbermint hack?

If we’re lucky to get treatment, it will be 3rd rate and cost 10 times as much as it does now.

Welcome to the dark ages. Bravo Jim Jone’s America


52 posted on 12/20/2009 11:53:09 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Well, we didn't get dressed up for nothin')
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To: DTogo

Agreed.


53 posted on 12/20/2009 11:53:22 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: DTogo

I’m with YOU!


54 posted on 12/20/2009 11:54:50 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (Lock & Load......Point & Click)
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To: freekitty
>>The revolution is on.<<

Yea, right. I wish it were so, but most Americans just can't muster the gumption to confront these shysters in Washington.

Our freedoms, liberty and national identity are slowly slipping away.

Pretty sad.

55 posted on 12/21/2009 12:17:15 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

Yes it is sad.


56 posted on 12/21/2009 12:18:14 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: sayfer bullets; All
Deprive the Democrats/Marxists government of tax funds.

Don't work to pay taxes out in the open. Work in the black market as the 30 million illegals do now.

The democrats/Marxists have turned businesses into being tax collecting agencies.

You need car repairs, your grass mowed, your house cleaned, computer repaired, etc? I will charge you but I won't report it to the IRS.

Create an underground network of conservatives to do this and even maybe to barter services or use gold instead of dollars to sell goods and services.

The black market in the U.S. is 10% of the GDP. In many countries it is as high as 70% .We can get it higher .Starve the beast.

Grow your own food in your own garden.

Create black market small factories in your house.

Have a solar generators and other generators in your house.

Don't purchase anything that is taxed in the retail market but grow your own food, and buy with gold in the black market as in gault’s gulch.

If the democrats/Marxists in congress and government can't loot our money then they can't bribe us with our money and they can't fund all their government agencies and their government will collapse.

Any other ideas to add to these?

57 posted on 12/21/2009 12:46:06 AM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are the threat , they all voted for socialism on 11/21/09)
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To: VicVega
Your posts shows that you have no idea of how the government works or of economics.

Democrats controlled 60 votes and so there is not a thing Republicans could do to stop this. All democrat/Marxist Senators voted to pass this . Not a single Republican Senator voted to pass this bill but you blame Republicans for this socialist bill passing? That's the most ridiculous thing I 've ever heard. Republicans could have all walked out and still the Democrats/Marxists had the 60% of the votes in the Senate to pass this.It is called a filibuster proof Senate. It is democrat dictatorship. The liberal media puppet masters have made puppets out you "conservatives" that hate the GOP.

Furthermore, Republicans didn't spend like drunken sailors as liberals , the MSM , and "conservatives" who hate the GOP say. That is a liberal mainstream media lie and a Michael Savage lie.

As you can see from this graph. Government size decreased during the time the Republicans controlled Congress. The number of government employees per thousand population actually decreased during Bush's presidency and during the time that the Republicans controlled Congress. Of course the liberal mainstream media ran stories every day how the Republicans were increasing government size ("spending") by record amounts.And government educated "conservatives" who have no clue about anything including economics bought that lie every day and so got angry and turned against the GOP which was the liberal media's goal.

Any "spending increases" were for mandatory spending increases mandated by the government machine and agencies the Democrats built since the late 1800's starting with the government schools. Also wars cost money and inflation were the "spending increases".

graph


58 posted on 12/21/2009 1:04:06 AM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are the threat , they all voted for socialism on 11/21/09)
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To: America2012

It will be too late. Free elections will be illegal by 2012.


59 posted on 12/21/2009 1:04:38 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: GOP_Raider

60 posted on 12/21/2009 1:08:11 AM PST by Cobra64
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