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Obama Barged Into BASIC Meet to Clinch Climate Deal (Times of India Play-by-Play)
Times Of India ^ | 21 December 2009 | Indrani Bagchi

Posted on 12/20/2009 9:34:01 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo

"Oh, you are all here. I had some things to discuss with all of you so it’s good that you are together in the same room,” US President Barack Obama said as he strode into the room where the BASIC countries — Brazil, South Africa, India and China — were holding their last, intensive meetings in Copenhagen.

“We really need a deal,” he said. “It’s better that we take one step forward rather than two steps back. I’m willing to be flexible.” And he rolled up his sleeves and sat down.

Obama had come to meet China’s Wen Jiabao, in the spirit of G-2 (US and China are the biggest polluters). He was told Wen was already in a meeting. But he wasn’t going to take no for an answer — especially since he feared the BASIC countries were preparing to walk out, which would have effectively killed the summit.

Obama’s securitymen pushed aside their Chinese counterparts as they shepherded him into the room. The Chinese retaliated by bringing in their TV crews and keeping the Americans out. But after that tense start, the meeting proceeded peacefully, according to Indian sources present in the room.

They’ll try to split us, Wen told Man(mohan Singh).

Earlier that morning, the lounge at the Bella Center saw four men — PM Manmohan Singh, premier Wen Jiabao, Brazilian president Luis Ignacio Lula da Silva and South African president Jacob Zuma — sitting together to iron out the last issues of the climate change deal, particularly on the verification procedures and reducing temperature rise to 2 degrees. The buzz in the room grew, and soon the four men found themselves surrounded by other heads of state and government who had gathered there.

By this time, the four countries had, thanks to their accumulated clout and a unified front, grown to become a formidable bloc. When the PM landed in Copenhagen, it had become clear that the western officials were preventing any cutting of a deal, leaving it to the heads of government. This was not how India, or China, wanted it, but Indian officials going in realized soon enough that the whole game was going to be that the heads of government would use their personal charm or force to push through a deal.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brazil; china; climatescam; cop15; copenhagen; gorebullwarming; india; obama; safrica; singh; southafrica; strongarm; wen
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1 posted on 12/20/2009 9:34:03 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Obama Barged Into BASIC Meet to Clinch Climate Deal (Times of India Play-by-Play)

Well, he is after all the most important diety currently on the planet, so this is excusable. /s
2 posted on 12/20/2009 9:40:45 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
The Chinese are really hammering Obama now. "Wen even refused to show up for a meeting with Obama, saying he was meeting Singh instead"... Also they put out that press release saying there is not enough money in the world to buy US treasuries.

I do believe that Obama has pissed off the Chinese.

3 posted on 12/20/2009 9:45:02 PM PST by gcraig (Freedom isn't free)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
My sense is that the deal was: we will give you a face-saving joint communique that sounds nice but means nothing, but don't come back to any of us on any topic again. We don't like the way you do business.

This cowboy diplomacy on Obama's part will paralyze overall relations with these countries, and in particular China, for the balance of Obama's presidency.

Obama got optics in exchange for compromising the vital interests of the United States.

Wag the dog.

4 posted on 12/20/2009 9:48:25 PM PST by Praxeologue
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To: AmericanInTokyo
But he wasn’t going to take no for an answer

What an arrogant SOB!!

5 posted on 12/20/2009 9:49:30 PM PST by Krodg
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Chinese Security Guard: “Must show Birth Certificate for attendance”.

Obama: “Oh s#!t!”

Chinese Security Guard: “You go now!”


6 posted on 12/20/2009 9:51:06 PM PST by bigbob
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To: gcraig

“I do believe that Obama has pissed off the Chinese.”
LOL. Well he’s p*d off everybody else on the planet but the downtown community activists who can’t read a paper and don’t watch even the MSM.


7 posted on 12/20/2009 9:52:15 PM PST by Bhoy
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To: gcraig

I don’t think obama was ever a chinese-supported or financed candidate, unlike Hillary. He certainly hasn’t made any effort kiss butt of the largest creditor and trading partner of the US, unlike any number of unsavory regimes, mostly muslim.

Based on everything I have seen, obama’s primary foreign support in the election was middle eastern.


8 posted on 12/20/2009 9:54:14 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: AmericanInTokyo
And The Times of India is no right wing blog.

yitbos

9 posted on 12/20/2009 9:55:01 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

They left out what he was saying when he first tried to get it- this makes it sound like he was assertive. In other reports he was BEGGING.


10 posted on 12/20/2009 9:59:56 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: gcraig
I do believe that Obama has pissed off the Chinese

First he goes to China and shows his colossal ignorance of protocol - then he compounds it in Copenhagen. You simply do not 'barge in' uninvited on the Chinese.

He has, officially, made the U.S. the laughing stock of countries.

Someone mentioned it was 'cowboy tactics.'

NO! (insult to cowboys.)

It was Chicago street gang thuggery. That doesn't sit well the overly polite Chinese - especially since THEY own US now.

11 posted on 12/20/2009 10:05:04 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

This entire administration is an epic embarassment.


12 posted on 12/20/2009 10:13:09 PM PST by CaptRon
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To: WoofDog123
"He certainly hasn’t made any effort kiss butt of the largest creditor and trading partner of the US"

Really?

Ignorance and Arrogance. Dangerous combination - especially for a POTUS

13 posted on 12/20/2009 10:17:45 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...

How right you are about Chicago thuggery. This is low level street behavior. And there was no seat/chair for him when he arrived so he sat with another country’s delegation just to participate in the event!!!!


14 posted on 12/20/2009 10:46:29 PM PST by FARS (Be happy, be well and THRIVE!)
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To: maine-iac7
...what an ignorant, freaking-dangerous-to-our-country idiot...
15 posted on 12/20/2009 10:53:28 PM PST by hummingbird (hummingbird. Conservative hummingbird.)
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To: maine-iac7

I believe those were the JAPANese.


16 posted on 12/20/2009 10:55:26 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Bhoy
Remember all that political commercial crap we heard from the Democrats during the 2008 campaign about how Bush lost all his political capital of good graces with other countries ?
Well, well, well, looks like now other countries are more upset with us than ever.... 2008's campaign message from the Democrats and Obama was all BS... but, they own this puppy now,, it's all theirs, and what ever happens in the world now , Obama will and should get the blame...
17 posted on 12/20/2009 10:56:44 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: FARS

He negotiates like he bowls. Special Olympics style.


18 posted on 12/20/2009 10:59:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Tar & feathers! Pitchforks and torches! ... Get some while supplies last.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I must now have ODS because I am now rooting for China.

Obama is America’s First Failed Black Pres-dent.....


19 posted on 12/20/2009 11:17:15 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: maine-iac7
Someone mentioned it was 'cowboy tactics.'

I wanted to show that Obama was behaving as he had (inaccurately) accused Bush of behaving. Hypocrisy.

20 posted on 12/20/2009 11:26:27 PM PST by Praxeologue
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