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1 posted on 12/20/2009 5:53:16 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

I need to get me some of these.


2 posted on 12/20/2009 5:57:22 PM PST by Scutter
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......Bolstering the already high reliability ratings of the M-16 and M-4,....

ROTFLMAO at more PR Bumwad

Yes, the magazine was a problem area. However it is one on of many problem areas. E.G., The weapons must be kept spotlessly clean to function reliably, the direct-gas impingement cycling mechanism is, and always has been a cause of fouling and stoppages in heavy continuing fire operations, say 5 magazines or more. The M-16 and M-4 variants are always reliable in only 1 category: i.e.,, coming in dead last in trials against other weapons, which invariably use a piston to recycle the action. Reliable? Yes. In many reported incidents, dead realiable.

One more question: Can the new magazine actually take 30 rounds, or is it wiser to load 25? The system/series is much better than it was in the early days, but still not good enough.

Time for a CHANGE.

5 posted on 12/20/2009 6:18:13 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Just because they are the "Stupid" Party, doesn't mean they can't be evil, too.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

How many bazillion has the army spent improving this trash piece already.


6 posted on 12/20/2009 6:19:49 PM PST by org.whodat
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Read the story and check out the video simulation.

What an innovation!

The sim shows the ENTIRE cartridge being fired from the weapon (M16/M4).

Only the Army could come up with this.

We Marines stick with the tried and true method of having bullets exit the barrel and empty cartridge cases eject from the ejection port.

9 posted on 12/20/2009 6:53:22 PM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Grunts have bitched about their issue weapons for centuries, nothing new here.

The M16 family of weapons is cost efficient for their intended purpose. And as such, will remain our militarys’ popgun for the forseeable future.

Small arms don’t defeat the enemy, that job is done by crew served weapons and airpower.


11 posted on 12/20/2009 7:14:31 PM PST by wrench
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To: sonofstrangelove

Wow...

Now if only the Army would do something about the low-bidder POS M9 magazines.... To say they provide gavity would be an understatement.


12 posted on 12/20/2009 7:27:57 PM PST by ASOC (Always act in accordance with the dictates of your conscience, my boy, and chance the consequences)
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M4’s and M16’s don’t need to be “spotlessly clean” to run - they just need to be wet, and FN makes the M16’s for the Marines, but Army M4’s are made by Colt.

But yes, mags have been a problem, and I’m glad to see it’s getting taken care of. But Magpul followers have been out for years, this really should have happened long before now.


13 posted on 12/20/2009 7:42:16 PM PST by wvdmc
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