Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Who wins, who loses in Senate health bill
Breitbart (AP) ^ | December 20, 2009 | Erica Werner

Posted on 12/20/2009 3:02:28 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian

WASHINGTON (AP) - The little town of Libby, Mont., isn't mentioned by name in the Senate's mammoth health care bill, but it's one of the big winners in the legislation, thanks to the influence of Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont.

After pushing for years for help for residents of the area, thousands of whom suffer from asbestos-related illnesses from a now-closed mineral mining operation, Baucus inserted language in a package of last-minute amendments that grants them access to Medicare benefits.

He didn't advertise the change, and it takes a close read of the bill to find it. It's just one example of how the sweeping legislation designed to remake the U.S. health care system and extend coverage to 30 million uninsured Americans also helps and hurts more narrow interests, often thanks to one lawmaker with influence or bargaining power.

Here's a look at some other winners and losers in the latest version of the legislation, which was expected to survive an initial test vote in the Senate around 1 a.m. Monday.

WINNERS

_Cosmetic surgeons, who fended off a 5 percent tax on their procedures.

_Nebraska, Louisiana, Vermont and Massachusetts. These states are getting more federal help paying for a proposed Medicaid expansion than other states are. In the case of Nebraska—represented by Sen. Ben Nelson, who's providing the critical 60th vote for the legislation to pass—the federal government is picking up 100 percent of the tab for the expansion, in perpetuity.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; benedictarnoldnelson; benedictnelson; bennelson; cornhuskerkickback; democrats; gophealthcare; ne; nebraska; nebraskawhore; nelson; obamacare; senatebill; socializedmedicine
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-35 next last

1 posted on 12/20/2009 3:02:29 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Cheap_Hessian
_Nebraska, Louisiana, Vermont and Massachusetts. These states are getting more federal help paying for a proposed Medicaid expansion than other states are. In the case of Nebraska—represented by Sen. Ben Nelson, who's providing the critical 60th vote for the legislation to pass—the federal government is picking up 100 percent of the tab for the expansion, in perpetuity

This has got to be unconstitutional, if that means anything today.

2 posted on 12/20/2009 3:07:44 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The_Media_never_lie
"This has got to be unconstitutional, if that means anything today."

It will be interesting to hear Mark Levin's opinion tomorrow.

3 posted on 12/20/2009 3:12:53 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Cheap_Hessian

Are the abortion provisions still in the bill?? Are we going to be forced to pay for abortions?


4 posted on 12/20/2009 3:14:03 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cheap_Hessian

The elephant in the room is the 21% cut to Doctors of Medicare patients. If anyone should be getting free money it should be the sick & elderly, but weirdly, this bill doles out cash for everyone else, but cuts funds for the sick & elderly. I’m still convinced that this is just another component of an overall wealth redistribution plan as are most of Obama’s initiatives.


5 posted on 12/20/2009 3:15:23 PM PST by purplelobster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cheap_Hessian

Congress has become a Criminal Enterprise.


6 posted on 12/20/2009 3:17:00 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cheap_Hessian

Millions of people are sick over this Democrat Obama stinking bill. What has happen to our country since this President was elected? Is this the mafia or representative government?


7 posted on 12/20/2009 3:18:28 PM PST by FreedBird (w)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ColdSteelTalon

Yes. As I understand it, the states can opt out of providing subsidies for abortion, but that would only cut funding for your state. We will still have to pay for subsidized abortions for other states that didn’t opt out.


8 posted on 12/20/2009 3:19:39 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: purplelobster

Then, they will be seeing patients for close to nothing.


9 posted on 12/20/2009 3:19:41 PM PST by mel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Cheap_Hessian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDWGKQcQ8zw

It's obvious that it is fair for all and paid for by all otherwise government wouldn't sanction such a massive change in our lives personally.

Right?

10 posted on 12/20/2009 3:21:39 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The_Media_never_lie

At somepoint do seniors move their, drain their resources and and help collapse the system? Duh, even I can see this happening. The will regret these bargins, Doctors may not want to go to these places..


11 posted on 12/20/2009 3:22:32 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: purplelobster
The elephant in the room is the 21% cut to Doctors of Medicare patients.

I would love to see doctors all across the nation start sending out letters to their patients on Medicare saying that on, oh Feb. 1 or March 1, they will have to find another doctor. If a large number of doctors would do this the seniors would riot in the streets and put the fear of the Heavenly Host in the congress critters.

12 posted on 12/20/2009 3:22:43 PM PST by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: purplelobster

That 21% is the other gift to AARP. Seniors using AARP supplemental will end up paying AARP more premiums.


13 posted on 12/20/2009 3:23:18 PM PST by Cold Heart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Cold Heart

“That 21% is the other gift to AARP.”

I will have to read about the AARP supplemental. I was wondering who benefits from the cut. It also seems like a way for the Dem vampires to force the sick & elderly off of Medicare and on to Medicaid so that the U.S. government can get their hands on any savings that the elderly person has accrued.


14 posted on 12/20/2009 3:29:54 PM PST by purplelobster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Cheap_Hessian
All of the Founder's warnings are coming true at an amazing pace. Soon it will come to this:

Soap Box

Ballot Box

Ammo Box

Because we once again have the familiar problem, as this new "health care" plan is actually a TAX. And this is truly:

Taxation Without Representation

15 posted on 12/20/2009 3:33:35 PM PST by datura ("Against all enemies, both foreign and domestic")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: engrpat

Just maybe when more and more people find out about the worst parts of this there will be a demand to repeal it even before next year’s election.

The cuts in care are stunning. For decades we have heard the elites literally scream about how Republicans want people to get sick and die. Now the Dems are proposing this, the very advocacy groups that are supposed to support them either are silent or embrace this legislation!


16 posted on 12/20/2009 3:34:08 PM PST by TNCMAXQ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: TNCMAXQ
What you say is true. I am retired, disabled and just finished prostate cancer surgery 10 days ago. I am more than sure that because of my underlining condition the cancer treatment would have been denied. Not denied by a doctor but by some clown, beholding to the democrat party for his job.

I know that some doctors now restrict the number of Medicare patients or refuse to take new ones, can't blame them.

17 posted on 12/20/2009 3:39:23 PM PST by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Cheap_Hessian

Government wins — We The People lose. Period.


18 posted on 12/20/2009 3:43:57 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FreedBird
Is this the mafia or representative government?

The Mafia had more compassion for their friends and neighbors.

Regards,
GtG

19 posted on 12/20/2009 3:48:11 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Gandalf_The_Gray

It is still organized crime going on. You are right, Obama is not the Godfather he is something worse.


20 posted on 12/20/2009 3:50:58 PM PST by FreedBird (w)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-35 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson