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President Obama: Federal Government 'Will Go Bankrupt' if Health Care Costs Are Not Reigned In
ABC News ^ | 12/16/09

Posted on 12/16/2009 2:50:51 PM PST by earlJam

President Obama: Federal Government 'Will Go Bankrupt' if Health Care Costs Are Not Reigned In

December 16, 2009 3:01 PM

President Obama told ABC News’ Charles Gibson in an interview that if Congress does not pass health care legislation that will bring down costs, the federal government “will go bankrupt.”

The president laid out a dire scenario of what will happen if his health care reform effort fails.

“If we don't pass it, here's the guarantee….your premiums will go up, your employers are going to load up more costs on you,” he said. “Potentially they're going to drop your coverage, because they just can't afford an increase of 25 percent, 30 percent in terms of the costs of providing health care to employees each and every year. “

The president said that the costs of Medicare and Medicaid are on an “unsustainable” trajectory and if there is no action taken to bring them down, “the federal government will go bankrupt.”

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Obama told Gibson that anybody who says they are concerned about the rising deficit or worried about tax increases in the future has to support this health care bill.

“Because if we don't do this, nobody argues with the fact that health care costs are going to consume the entire federal budget,” the president said.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.abcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; bhohealthcare; chucklestheclown; killthebill; obamacare
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To: earlJam
"….your premiums will go up, your employers are going to load up more costs on you,” he said. “Potentially they're going to drop your coverage"

STOP SCARING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BO!

oops i plagerized the Pres_ent...

21 posted on 12/16/2009 3:14:52 PM PST by uncitizen
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To: earlJam

Federal Government ‘Will Go Bankrupt’ if President Obama Is Not Reigned In


22 posted on 12/16/2009 3:16:10 PM PST by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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To: earlJam
President Obama: Federal Government 'Will Go Bankrupt' if Health Care Costs Are Not Reigned In

Please tell me Bamo.....

.....How do the present and future health care costs of the private sector bankrupt the Federal Government?

.....How will bringing private sector health care obligations to the Federal Government save the government money?

This is about power to rule peoples lives, plain and simple.

23 posted on 12/16/2009 3:16:33 PM PST by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: earlJam
"President Obama: Federal Government 'Will Go Bankrupt' if Health Care Costs Are Not Reigned In"

I wish this idiot would shut up already with the "peter panic" syndrome. I haven't heard much about a "health care crisis" since that last liberal idiot tried to get her version passed.

Maybe the advice "rahmbot themanual" gave about never letting a crisis go to waste, should be corrected to remind the kenyan that it might work, once or twice, maybe three times, but after that it becomes the "boy who cried wolf".

The kenyan is trying to tell us that the USA is "too big to fail", like he did in the last few "emergencies" he's used to leverage us into socialism...but you know what, if the USA fails, it will all be on obama's watch.

The polls show that 80% of the people are happy with the coverage they have, and there is some plan out there for young and old to cover the rest.

Just go into any emergency room, any night of the week (it would help if you speak Spanish), and you'll find it filled with runny noses and sprained ankles, which are not "emergencies", but they are getting "insurance-less" treatment, and most are NOT EVEN CITIZENS.

These lefties and their "messiah", obama, are nothing but drama queens trying to scare people into helping this communist regime get control of us all.

If the obama's and barbara boxers of the world want to run their mouths, let them - it's a free country...but we just need to make sure that no one is listening, or believing them but the 30% who are looking for a free insurance handout.

I refuse to be required to buy a pig in an poke to be a "citizen in good standing" with the "Peoples republic of obama". I'll be the guy in Teinnamin (sp?) square standing in front of the tank, if I have to be.
24 posted on 12/16/2009 3:19:26 PM PST by FrankR (SENATE: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10...count on it.)
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To: earlJam
President Obama: Federal Government 'Will Go Bankrupt' if Health Care Costs Are Not Reigned In

"Reined", you idiots, not "reigned"! ...Oops, I forgot. Our Fearless Leader is trying to "reign" over the country.

25 posted on 12/16/2009 3:23:25 PM PST by rfp1234 (R.I.P. Scotty 7/2007-11/2009.)
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To: earlJam

Is this the kind of crap they teach in Economics courses at Harvard???


26 posted on 12/16/2009 3:36:04 PM PST by Purrcival (Proud to share my birthday with President Reagan)
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To: earlJam

Fed has been bankrupt for years... just print more money....


27 posted on 12/16/2009 3:36:33 PM PST by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: Purrcival
I would bet you that Zero never cracked a economics book as an undergraduate. It's certainly not a subject covered in law school.
Of course we have no idea what classes he took as an undergraduate. (Ok thats not quite right we sort of know he took one political science class. I think we have someone who at least as a vague recollection of Zero in a undergraduate class.)

And taking and undergraduate or graduate class in economics doesn't mean one actually learned anything. College & universities are swimming with the willfully ignorant!

28 posted on 12/16/2009 3:49:26 PM PST by Reily
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To: lonestar

THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!


29 posted on 12/16/2009 4:02:11 PM PST by West Texas Chuck (US out of the UN - UN out of the US)
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To: GauchoUSA

I agree the federal government should only be spending money on defense and I will add that we should do away with the IRS and have a flat tax.


30 posted on 12/16/2009 4:22:02 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: earlJam

++++Federal Government ‘Will Go Bankrupt’ if Health Care Costs Are Not Reigned+++++

Admission. And so now we know who the “uninsured” really are. Looks like what this was about all along..the Federal Government invested in insurance/pensions/insurance losses, and MBS. So now we are suppose to pay for their insurance and losses, by threats and force! (And one wonders how many annuities/insurance they and the Beltway gang are invested in)


31 posted on 12/16/2009 4:36:58 PM PST by Varsity Flight
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To: Reily
Economics should/can be learned very early starting w/one's first job. No where do we see where BHO ever worked. His first job was after law school at age 30?

No scrimping, no saving - life was a freebie for him and he continues to live that way.

His plans for a Hawaiian vacation with his entourage is just another slap in the face to Americans in this economic free fall. Being at war means nothing to him as CIC; moreso, as our soldiers are under his new ROE.
32 posted on 12/16/2009 4:40:50 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: earlJam
President Obama: Federal Government 'Will Go Bankrupt' if Health Care Costs Are Not Reigned In

Oh...you mean Death Panels and other rationing.

Sarah Palin was right.

33 posted on 12/16/2009 4:49:07 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: earlJam

No, we will go bankrupt with Obama at the head.


34 posted on 12/16/2009 5:00:35 PM PST by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: FrankR
You're one of the old timers around here so you should be agreeable to reading a report prepared back in '04 I believe that painted a picture of looming disaster if nothing was done with "entitlements", in particular Medicare and Social Security. They are both due to explode, and soon. Of course what odinga is NOT saying is that they are both programs initiated years ago by - Dims! Pubbies for the most part have played along with the charade that "There's nothing to see here, move along...

I've taken the Forward, which is revealing, from the Gokhale-Smetters Report(PDF) and formatted it for posting here since the complete report is lengthy. I suppose the bottom line is it would be political suicide to actually advocate for phasing out either program, but it's not like the federales have never welched on a promise, eh?

Foreword

This study exposes a serious financial accounting problem of great political importance and proposes a way to correct it. The subject is not the corporate accounting problems that have attracted so much public attention in recent years, but rather the accounting problems of the federal government itself, which have attracted almost no public attention.

Two long-established measures of federal finances continue to receive top billing in official government reports and to dominate policy debate in Washington and in the media. They are the “national debt”—the government’s outstanding debt from past borrowing yet to be repaid—and the budget deficit or surplus for the current year and the next several years. These measures were perfectly adequate when government spending was mainly for roads and battleships and payments to discrete groups, such as farmers, that could be adjusted in the short term. A budget deficit or surplus might be justified by immediate public contingencies— or might indicate that taxes or expenditures were too high or too low. The national debt, like the debt of a corporation, might be justified by current expenditures expected to yield positive returns in future years—or might indicate profligate spending or inadequate tax collections. Political debate over these matters had a reasonable connection to fiscal reality because the accounting numbers covered roughly the same periods of time as the government’s actual spending commitments and revenue projections.

But that is not the case today. Two large social insurance programs, Social Security and Medicare, now account for more than one-third of all federal spending, and this share will increase vi FISCAL AND GENERATIONAL IMBALANCES dramatically with the retirement of the baby-boom generation. Both programs consist of long-term commitments—to provide income and medical insurance benefits to older citizens far into the future. And both are, for the most part, unfunded: they are financed not by savings to meet future commitments but by contemporaneous transfers, now and in the future, from wage earners paying payroll taxes to retirees and others receiving benefits. These program features confound the conventional accounting measures. The differences between future benefit payments and future tax collections are not part of either the government’s debt or budget measures.

It is not only the current size of Social Security and Medicare that makes the accounting omission a serious one. Although the financial commitments involved will be paid far into the future, they affect the savings behavior of younger people today— both programs are deeply embedded in the political expectations and immediate economic choices of all Americans. And the rapidly approaching “demographic transition” to a society with a much higher ratio of older to younger people will make the current expedient of pay-as-you-go financing unsustainable before long. Accurate accounting has a practical purpose: to reveal the consequences of current practices and to clarify the nature of the choices we face. In the absence of accurate accounting, political debate over some of the most momentous issues of the age is proceeding in an empirical vacuum, and has become much more confused and desultory than it needs to be. American citizens are being misinformed, to their serious detriment, in both their political and private choices.

Gokhale and Smetters propose a new set of accounting measures to supplement the conventional ones. “Fiscal Imbalance” adds to the federal government’s current public debt the present value of the difference between all projected federal non-interest spending and all projected federal revenue. “Generational Imbalance” indicates how much of the Fiscal Imbalance arises from older generations shifting tax burdens to younger (including yet-unborn) generations. Together, these measures provide a comprehensive accounting of the “total future debt”—most of it now hidden—implicit in today’s policies and the distribution of that debt across age groups.

The Gokhale-Smetters measures cast an alarming light on the federal government’s financial circumstances. The current Fiscal Imbalance is $44.2 trillion, almost all of it a consequence of Social Security and Medicare. That is more than ten times larger than the government’s current debt from past borrowing—and it is growing many times faster than current budget deficits are growing the debt. Fiscal Imbalance is, to repeat, a present-value calculation, not a sum of future dollar expenditures; our government would need to appropriate the nation’s entire gross domestic product for the next four years to meet the Social Security and Medicare commitments it has already made. And the Fiscal Imbalance is about to deteriorate further. As this monograph goes to press, Congress is poised to expand Medicare benefits sharply without any corresponding taxes to pay for them, to the extent of adding many trillions more (perhaps the equivalent of another year’s total GDP) to the government’s current Fiscal Imbalance.

One can of course argue over the economic and demographic assumptions on which Gokhale and Smetters base their calculations (they are the same assumptions used by the Office of Management and Budget in the administration’s most recent Budget). But no amount of adjusting would alter the essential conclusion: In the absence of economic or demographic developments dramatically different from anything anticipated, massive tax increases or benefit reductions are inevitable.

For this reason, the introduction of Fiscal Imbalance and Generational Imbalance measures into the government’s financial reports will be resisted by political activists with discrete agendas. Those who favor tax cuts regardless of the government’s spending commitments will fear that the massive Fiscal Imbalance will be a powerful weapon in the hands of those seeking higher taxes. Those who wish to maintain Social Security and Medicare in their current forms will fear that the Fiscal and Generational Imbalance figures will be a powerful weapon in the hands of those who wish to supplant the programs with personal retirement savings accounts.

A careful reading of this study will show that the latter group have more to fear than the former. The enormity of the current imbalances is primarily a result of the impossibility of sustaining Social Security and Medicare through pay-as-you-go financing— the requisite payroll taxes would soon become crushing and selfdefeating. Pre-funding these programs through personal savings accounts is a far more powerful means of restoring fiscal balance than tax increases, and would almost certainly be worth the explicit borrowing necessary to accomplish the transition; indeed, that may be the only feasible means of saving the programs.

But the larger teaching of Gokhale and Smetters’s research is entirely nonpartisan: The dynamics of democratic politics and policy innovation have produced a powerful bipartisan machine for winning the support of today’s voters, especially older voters, by placing massive, concealed financial burdens on the young and the unborn. The new financial measures proposed here will not abolish those dynamics, but one hopes that they might make short-term political appeals more disciplined and cautious—and perhaps create opportunities for political entrepreneurs to fashion new appeals to those who wish to maintain our current prosperity for generations to come.

CHRISTOPHER DEMUTH
President
American Enterprise Institute
for Public Policy Research

35 posted on 12/16/2009 5:11:18 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: earlJam

The problem with Medicare and Medicaid (currently) is that docs don’t HAVE to participate. That puts a floor on how low they can put chargebacks before docs abandon the system, with all the political fallout that will ensue. They need a way to lock docs into the system, namely making every patient part of the system, so docs can’t leave the system except by leaving the practice of medicine entirely.


36 posted on 12/16/2009 5:18:35 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: earlJam
nobody argues with the fact that health care costs are going to consume the entire federal budget,” the president said.

Mmmkay. So, we'll prevent health care costs from consuming the budget by giving the government more involvement in health care? That makes sense, if you're insane.

And it's beyond presumptuous to state that "nobody" is arguing this. Maybe they aren't arguing directly with His Prezness, but they're still arguing.

37 posted on 12/16/2009 5:18:35 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: earlJam

This guy is a NUTCASE.


38 posted on 12/16/2009 5:19:45 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: earlJam
I'm sure OBAMA will make sure of that too!

He is already doing his best to do just that!

39 posted on 12/16/2009 5:23:38 PM PST by kcvl
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Obama’s political Waterloo is swiftly approaching; from all angles. He has done nothing right to help this great Country. Big surprise.


40 posted on 12/16/2009 5:29:07 PM PST by NoRedTape
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