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U.S. planning to restart Israel-PA talks based on '67 borders
HaAretz ^ | 12/15/09 | Akiva Eldar

Posted on 12/15/2009 11:49:09 PM PST by Nachum

The United States and Egypt, along with France, are planning a joint move to restart Israeli-Palestinian talks on the basis of the June 4, 1967, borders, territorial exchanges and a complete freeze of construction beyond the Green Line, including East Jerusalem. The freeze would not be announced publicly.

Egypt's foreign minister, Ahmed Aboul Gheit, said in an extensive interview with the Arabic daily Asharq Al-Awsat that "once they realized their earlier approach had failed, the Americans see themselves forced to change direction."

He added that Egypt had recently discussed with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas the new strategies for negotiations raised in talks between Cairo, Washington and Paris. An Egyptian source told Haaretz that Egypt's intelligence minister, Omar Suleiman, is scheduled to visit Israel and then Washington in the coming days.

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 67; borders; israelpa; restart
...and the hits just keep on coming
1 posted on 12/15/2009 11:49:11 PM PST by Nachum
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The list, ping


2 posted on 12/15/2009 11:49:35 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Hunker down and wait for better days.

These clowns won’t be in the White House forever. You don’t want to have to bleed for the same ground twice. And any ground you give up in the interest of “peace” you will eventually have to take back at a much higher cost.

The only “land for peace” formula that works is for Israel to promise to seize land in response to every breach of the peace. Every attack must be answered by annexing the land the attack was launched from. That is “land for peace” that will work.

The current version is perverse; it rewards the attacker and guarantees the next attack. Every time.


3 posted on 12/15/2009 11:54:18 PM PST by marron
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To: Nachum

There is an all out assault of Israel going on.
But then we have been here before. Israel virtual library:
In retrospect, there were indications that Egypt was preparing for war. On July 17, 1972, Sadat expelled the 15,000 Soviet advisers from Egypt. Sadat later explained that the expulsion freed him to pursue his preparations for war. On December 28, 1972, Sadat created “permanent war committees.” On March 26, 1973, Sadat assumed the additional title of prime minister and formed a new government designed to continue preparations for a confrontation with Israel.

Then on October 6, 1973, Egyptian forces launched a successful surprise attack across the Suez Canal. The Syrians carried out an attack on Israel at the same time. For the Arabs, it was the fasting month of Ramadan, and for Israel it was Yom Kippur. The crossing of the canal, an astounding feat of technology and military acumen, took only four hours to complete. The crossing was code-named Operation Badr after the first victory of the Prophet Muhammad, which culminated in his entry into Mecca in 630.

On October 17 the Arab oil producers announced a program of reprisals against the Western backers of Israel: a 5 percent cutback in output, followed by further such reductions every month until Israel had withdrawn from all the occupied territories and the rights of the Palestinians had been restored. The next day, President Nixon formally asked Congress for US$2.2 billion in emergency funds to finance the massive airlift of arms to Israel that was already under way. The following day, King Faisal of Saudi Arabia decreed an immediate 10 percent cutback in Saudi oil and, five days after that, the complete suspension of all shipments to the United States.

Israel was shocked and unprepared for the war. After the initial confusion and near panic in Israel followed by the infusion of United States weaponry, Israel was able to counterattack and succeeded in crossing to the west bank of the canal and surrounding the Egyptian Third Army. With the Third Army surrounded, Sadat appealed to the Soviet Union for help. Soviet prime minister Alexei Kosygin believed he had obtained the American acceptance of a cease-fire through Henry Kissinger, United States secretary of state. On October 22, the UN Security Council passed Resolution 338, calling for a cease-fire by all parties within twelve hours in the positions they occupied. Egypt accepted the cease-fire, but Israel, alleging Egyptian violations of the cease-fire, completed the encirclement of the Third Army to the east of the canal. By nightfall on October 23, the road to Suez, the Third Army’s only supply line, was in Israeli hands, cutting off two divisions and 45,000 men.

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I guess the Egyptians want to forget about this little matter.


4 posted on 12/15/2009 11:59:22 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Nachum
For those whom will force Israel to give up their land, in turn, the God of Israel will cause their land and more taken away....

Those who bless Israel, I will bless, and those who curse Israel, I will curse...
5 posted on 12/16/2009 12:02:12 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Marty62
Except this time after more than 37 years of planning the enemies of Israel will try it again, and this time, Israel won't have the help of a sympathetic President of the United States, the only help Israel will get now is the Lord God of Israel.

GOD HELP ISRAEL !!
GOD BLESS ISRAEL !!
GOD BE WITH ISRAEL !!
6 posted on 12/16/2009 12:09:58 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Marty62

What happened to those Egyptian forces?


7 posted on 12/16/2009 12:10:25 AM PST by rawhide
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To: American Constitutionalist
For those whom will force Israel to give up their land, in turn, the God of Israel will cause their land and more taken away....

Your prayer would make the anti-American socialist from Kenya/Indonesia/Chicago an instrument of God. I guess that is an accurate characterization, in a frightening way.

9 posted on 12/16/2009 12:11:58 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Nachum

Utsu etzu! (Isaiah 8:10)


10 posted on 12/16/2009 12:12:51 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Pollster1

It’s not a prayer, it’s what the BIBLE says, those who bless Israel God will bless, and those who curse Israel, God will curse.... and those who will force Israel to give up their land, God will cause those who force Israel to lose their land and more.


11 posted on 12/16/2009 12:27:04 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Nachum

Israel should tell this “magic negro” to go to hell.

Hey Israel, nuke Iran.


12 posted on 12/16/2009 2:34:05 AM PST by Joe Boucher (This marxist punk has got to go.)
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To: Nachum

If Israel goes for this they have bigger fools in charge than we do.


13 posted on 12/16/2009 3:33:37 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Nachum
And they think that Israel will have nothing to say about it?

As if they think they can easily just divide Israel up into two pieces of separate land, divided by a mass expansion of Palestinian land that they never owned in the first place.

This could be the trigger for Armageddon. If they push Israel too far, they just might move in and take the Temple Mount away from Islam. After all, they are the original and documented owners. Then the prophesy will be complete.

14 posted on 12/16/2009 3:40:15 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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15 posted on 12/16/2009 4:27:47 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: Nachum

Diplomatic make work project. Job security is the 1967 boundry


16 posted on 12/16/2009 4:33:51 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: Nachum

Here is what Israel should have.

17 posted on 12/16/2009 4:43:38 AM PST by bmwcyle (When do they collect and jail the homeless when they don't buy their health care?)
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To: marron

I’m not leaving. Period.


18 posted on 12/16/2009 9:42:00 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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To: rawhide

The went home with their tails between their legs.


19 posted on 12/16/2009 9:43:49 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: American Constitutionalist

We knew this was coming.
After watching “Setting the Record Straight” by David Barton

We as Americans have only ourselves to blame for allowing this cancer to lie dormant, and now with breath taking speed to consume not only the U.S but to put Gods Land in jeopardy of being destoyed.
Like Islam, everytime Dums have total control in the U.S., Death and destruction follow.
It is a historical FACT.


20 posted on 12/16/2009 9:53:48 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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