Posted on 12/15/2009 12:27:51 PM PST by LdSentinal
In a blow to the bill grinding through the Senate, Howard Dean bluntly called for the bill to be killed in a pre-recorded interview set to air later this afternoon, denouncing it as “the collapse of health care reform in the United States Senate,” the reporter who conducted the interview tells me.
Dean said the removal of the Medicare buy-in made the bill not worth supporting, and urged Dem leaders to start over with the process of reconciliation in the interview, which is set to air at 5:50 PM today on Vermont Public Radio, political reporter Bob Kinzel confirms to me.
The gauntlet from Dean — whose voice on health care is well respsected among liberals — will energize those on the left who are mobilizing against the bill, and make it tougher for liberals to embrace the emerging proposal. In an excerpt Kinzel gave me, Dean says:
“This is essentially the collapse of health care reform in the United States Senate. Honestly the best thing to do right now is kill the Senate bill, go back to the House, start the reconciliation process, where you only need 51 votes and it would be a much simpler bill.”
Kinzel added that Dean essentially said that if Democratic leaders cave into Joe Lieberman right now they’ll be left with a bill that’s not worth supporting.
Dean had previously endorsed the Medicare buy-in compromise without a public option, saying that the key question should be whether the bill contains enough “real reform” to be worthy of progressives’ support. Dean has apparently concluded that the “real reform” has been removed at Lieberman’s behest — which won’t make it easier for liberals to swallow the emerging compromise.
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Lots of people posting short little videos and they are high in file size. But I don’t see people complaining as much.
If they start over to do the nuclear option, it pushes everything closer to election and they will lose votes in the House. It could be that health care reform could turn out to be “a bridge too far” for Dhimmis. Let’s hope so.
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This POS knows this is a back-door public option. He’s playing possum. Don’t believe a word this lying, crap-spewing commie wannabe says.
Dean is jumping on the bandwagon for a handout/payoff.
“Letting Dean and the far Left scream about what about a bad bill this is is good for the Rats from a spin perspective.”
I agree. BOR said tonight that the “far right” is against this bill. Dean is the far left and comes from out of nowhere today to slam the bill. Rahm remembers the triangulation days of Clinton. Portray the bill as unacceptable to “extremists” on both sides, then it will appear to be good for the majority in the middle. Pure spin.
I pray you are correct. These nutters don’t seem to care all that much about elections or what the public demands. I’m afraid they’ll take it up immediately upon return from the Christmas break.
Somebody should right a book on internet political slurs lol because they get quite creative.
“Nutroots” is a derivative of “netroots” which is short for “internet grassroots” aka “moonbats.” Other names specific to Democratic Underground include “DUmmies, DUmbasses, DUchebags and DUpes.”
I must admit I am entertained by their own creative hatred. They always call us “Repugs, Repigs, Republicons, or Conservi-tards” who congregate at “FreakRepugnant.” My all time favorite Bush slurs I saw over there were “Chimpy McBushitler” and “Chimpy the Poop Thrower.”
However we mustn’t forget all this name calling is nothing compared to the old days when politicos beat eachother with canes on the Senate floor lol.
typing too fast: WRITE a book lol
i HEARD Sanders from Vermont say that you still need 60, but if they go with the nuke option, then hell they can just do it anyway they want. Unless there are 10 dem senators who aren’t nuts.
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