[Old Teufel Hunden]

"But this will be a good argument with rank and file libs we might be conversing with"

I do know some rank and file libs. They are doing what the hardcore left always does. They are ignoring reality and think everything is great in the Obama administration.

[SeattleBruce]

They are ignoring reality and think everything is great in the Obama administration.
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Ignoring reality includes ignoring 15 million people out of work, and who knows how many that have fallen off the other end of the unemployment claims conveyor belt (i.e the real UR). Many of us here have been talking about the U-6 rate - 17+% underemployed, and that rate is higher given the above numbers of those not currently looking for work after their unemployment benefits ran out.

Yeah, they can ignore that reality right up to a Conservative Landslide in 11/2010.